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Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:34 pm
by HarryGoldfarb
Not a record but an odd fact...

This must have been noted before because it is very obvious, but Moore winning at 54 is only the 2nd woman to win in her fifties, joining Shirley Booth in this (now) super-exclusive group.

Plus, this was only the 20th time in history when a best actress winner is older than the best actor winner. Before Moore, we had Dressler, Crawford, the aforementioned Booth, Magnani, Bergman (the 2nd one), Signoret, Neal, Hepburn (older than Steiger), Hepburn again (older than Robertson), Fletcher, Keaton, Fonda, Page, Tandy, Lange, Sarandon, Kidman, Mirren and Streep four years ago.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:40 am
by Heksagon
Going through the obvious nationality records: Iñárritu misses out on being the first Mexican to win Best Director, but he is, i believe, the first Mexican, the first Latin American and the first native Spanish-speaker to win Best Picture.

I believe that Iñárritu, Bó and Giacabone are the first Latin Americans to win an Oscar for screenwriting. In that case they also tie for the second native Spanish-speaker to win this category, after Pedro Almodóvar. Iñárritu is the first Mexican to win in writing, and to my knowledge, Bó and Giacabone tie for the fourth Argentinian to win any Oscar, after Gustavo Santaolalla and (if you count foreign lingo winners) Luis Puenzo and Juan José Campanella. Someone will certainly correct me if I'm wrong here.

Bó and Giacabone are also first cousins, so they go on the relatively short list of relatives winning Oscars.

Edit: I'll just correct myself. Composer Luis Bacalov, art director Eugenio Zanetti and short film producer Nicolas Schmerkin are also Argentinian. So there is a total of eight Argentinian Oscar winners I know of.

Edit2: Typos

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:12 pm
by Mister Tee
Well, it'll depend on your definition, but Francis Coppola got his start making what were called "nudie" features, which were the early 60s equivalent of porn.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:18 am
by anonymous1980
The director of Departures (Oscar-winner for Best Foreign Language Film), I heard, has also directed porn.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:47 am
by Precious Doll
I would have posted this earlier but I have been receiving the 403 error over the last couple of days.

Wash Watermoreland co-director of Still Alice is the the first director who started out directing in the 'adult film industry' who has directed an actor to an Oscar win.

Chances are they may be other directors, but if so it's not publicly known.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:37 am
by Uri
dws1982 wrote:Also Bullock/Mo'Nique, but I think you may be trying to forget that ever happened.


Indeed I am.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:52 am
by dws1982
Also Bullock/Mo'Nique, but I think you may be trying to forget that ever happened.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:33 am
by Uri
dws1982 wrote:Along these lines it's the first time since Lange/Wiest that both female winners were 45 or older. 5th time overall, I think. The others were Tandy/Fricker, Hepburn/Stapleton, and Hepburn/Gordon.


Actually, now that I think about it, practically whenever they go with an over 40 best actress, they accompany her with a non-babe supporting actress. (I guess it’s guilt of some kind – it’s like saying to a newly crowned aging queen of Hollywood they’re not going to overshadow her with a more fuckable bimbo): Crawford/Revere, Manganni/Van Fleet, Hayward/Hiller, Hepburn/Parsons, Hepburn/Gordon, Burstin/Bergman, Fletcher/Grant, Fonda/Smith, Hepburn/Stapleton, MacLaine/Hunt(!), Cher/Dukakis, Tandy/Fricker, Bates/Goldberg, Lange/Wiest, Streep/Spencer, Moore/Arquette.

The exceptions: Booth/Graham, Page/Huston, Sarandon/Sorbino, Mirren/Hudson (and the latter two don’t really count since no one could overshadow these two at the time of their respective wins, sexiness wise).

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:11 am
by dws1982
anonymous1980 wrote:
- Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) has the longest-title of any Best Picture winner.


I'm assuming this is in terms of syllables because The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King has more words.

Going off of letters--40 for Birdman... versus 35 for Return....

Uri wrote:For the first time since 2000, the average age of the winning actresses is higher than that of the actors. It’s only the 14th time this scenario happens since the 4 acting categories were established (and even before that, only once out of six times was the actress older than her male co-winner – that would be the geriatric combo of Dressler/Barrymore). Also, this 14 year gap (2000-14) is the longest ever, which correlates with recent studies indicating that the age difference between male and female characters (as well as number of roles) in current American Cinema only keeps increasing.

Along these lines it's the first time since Lange/Wiest that both female winners were 45 or older. 5th time overall, I think. The others were Tandy/Fricker, Hepburn/Stapleton, and Hepburn/Gordon.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:05 am
by Uri
If we’re going for trivia, then let’s start with some real trivial stuff.

Apropos "Best and Whitest" - Were James Cagney and Van Heflin redheads? If not, then for the first time we have three redhead actors winning in the same year. Had Emma Stone won, we’d have a flush (she is a natural ginger, isn't she? Don’t you miss Robert Altman?).

For the first time since 2000, the average age of the winning actresses is higher than that of the actors. It’s only the 14th time this scenario happens since the 4 acting categories were established (and even before that, only once out of six times was the actress older than her male co-winner – that would be the geriatric combo of Dressler/Barrymore). Also, this 14 year gap (2000-14) is the longest ever, which correlates with recent studies indicating that the age difference between male and female characters (as well as number of roles) in current American Cinema only keeps increasing.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:01 am
by Big Magilla
Heksagon wrote:
dws1982 wrote:- Innaritu is the first person since Joel and Ethan Coen to win three Oscars in one night, and the tenth overall. He's the seventh to win three Oscars for writing, directing, and producing the same film.

I was fairly certain he's eighth, but now that I checked it, apparently IMDB no longer credits Leo McCarey for the Best Picture win in Going My Way. So does he count or not? He was certainly the producer of the film, and I'm pretty sure he picked up the statuette.

Technically he doesn't count. Until 1950 the Best Picture award was given to the Production Company, not the film's producer. It would have gone to Paramount, not McCarey. However, in terms of accomplishment, he most certainly does.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:55 am
by anonymous1980
- Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) has the longest-title of any Best Picture winner.


I'm assuming this is in terms of syllables because The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King has more words.

Other notable firsts:

- First time since 1980's Ordinary People that a Best Picture winner did not get an Editing nomination.
- First time since Annie Hall that a film that lost the Best Musical/Comedy Picture Golden Globe won Best Picture (it's only the second film overall to do that).

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:27 am
by Heksagon
dws1982 wrote:** Interesting trivia here: Innaritu swept his three categories, the direct result being that both Richard Linklater and Wes Anderson--also nominated in the same three categories--left the ceremony empty-handed. A similar thing happened when the Coens swept in 2007--all three of their wins were in the same three categories that Paul Thomas Anderson was nominated. There are some other cases where an individual has won three Oscar in the same night and beat the same person in two of the categories (for one, Peter Jackson managed to beat Sofia Coppola, Clint Eastwood, Peter Weir, and Gary Ross in two different categories on Oscar night 2004), but I think these are the only cases of one individual beating another in all three categories.

When someone says things like this, I just need to go on and show they are forgetting something.

In 1973, Marvin Hamlisch beat John Williams in three categories: Best Dramatic Score, Song and Song Score/Adapted Score

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:15 am
by Heksagon
dws1982 wrote:- Innaritu is the first person since Joel and Ethan Coen to win three Oscars in one night, and the tenth overall. He's the seventh to win three Oscars for writing, directing, and producing the same film.

I was fairly certain he's eighth, but now that I checked it, apparently IMDB no longer credits Leo McCarey for the Best Picture win in Going My Way. So does he count or not? He was certainly the producer of the film, and I'm pretty sure he picked up the statuette.

Re: Notable Firsts and Records

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:01 pm
by dws1982
He was referred to as "Professor" and shown working at Cambridge. Yeah, maybe it didn't show him grading papers or anything, but even a guest lecturer can be considered a teacher.