Pre-Christmas Look at the Top Races

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Postby Big Magilla » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:52 pm

Jodie Foster in Nell wasn't mute. She spoke her own language.

Patty Duke was mute except for that one word in The Miracle Worker.

It could happen with Hawkins, though. Neither Jane Wyman nor Marlee Matlin were favored to win. Wyman was up against Olivia de Havilland in The Snake Pit and Matlin was up against Kathleen Turner in Peggy Sue Got Married. Only Holly Hunter in The Piano was an out-and-out favorite.
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Postby FilmFan720 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm

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Postby CalWilliam » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:18 pm

Greg wrote:One thing I have thought about in relation to Sally Hawkins chances of winning Best Actress is, as far as I know, everyone nominated for Best Actress for playing a mute character, Jane Wyman, Marlee Matlin, and Holly Hunter, has won. Does anyone know if there were other Best Actress nominations for playing mute characters and if they won or lost?


I can think of Samantha Morton in Sweet and Lowdown and Rinko Kikuchi in Babel, both losing in supporting. In leading I haven’t seen Nell, but does Jodie Foster fit in this criteria? In her case she was not going to win because of her two previous victories and that she was nominated the year after Hunter won. Anyway, I buy your argument but I have a hunch this year they will go with McDormand’s second (and no one will complain). That’s a great performance and a very colorful and strong female character.
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Postby Greg » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 pm

One thing I have thought about in relation to Sally Hawkins chances of winning Best Actress is, as far as I know, everyone nominated for Best Actress for playing a mute character, Jane Wyman, Marlee Matlin, and Holly Hunter, has won. Does anyone know if there were other Best Actress nominations for playing mute characters and if they won or lost?
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Postby flipp525 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:59 pm

Speaking of great dancing, Walken should have been nominated in support for Pennies from Heaven.

Rockwell had some fun, cute dance moves during his SNL opening monologue last night.
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Postby ITALIANO » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:26 pm

Sabin wrote:A quick word on Sam Rockwell. I don't know about you guys, but there's really only one person out there that this guy reminds me of: Christopher Walken. Both of them are known for playing dangerous people. Weirdos. Sometimes they're scumbags, sometimes pathological liars. Walken's baddies tend to run a bit sinister and Rockwell's tend to be a bit more roguish, but they're both known for making us understand and even like deeply wounded people. They both won on their first nominations for Best Picture winners.

And they're both great dancers.



And they are both great actors. Sam Rockwell may even be a bit better than Christopher Walken - or at least he maybe has a slightly wider range.

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Postby Sabin » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:06 pm

A quick word on Sam Rockwell. I don't know about you guys, but there's really only one person out there that this guy reminds me of: Christopher Walken. Both of them are known for playing dangerous people. Weirdos. Sometimes they're scumbags, sometimes pathological liars. Walken's baddies tend to run a bit sinister and Rockwell's tend to be a bit more roguish, but they're both known for making us understand and even like deeply wounded people. They both won on their first nominations for Best Picture winners.

And they're both great dancers.
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Postby OscarGuy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:46 am

Bennett Miller for Foxcatcher is the only director since the expansion to ten whose film didn't get a corresponding Best Picture nomination, so it's possible that someone from a non-Best Picture nominee could be nominated, but it's a remote possibility.
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Postby Precious Doll » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:01 am

I think James Gray would make a great out of the blue choice for the Academy.

The poor man can't seem to get a break over the years. He is clearly talented but his films have all failed at the box-office for a number of reasons.
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Postby Sabin » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:12 am

Wild card for Best Director: Craig Gillespie for 'I, Tonya.'

Everybody I'm talking to loves the film. It seems to be over-performing at the Guilds. It's a big, flashy Scorsese-aping mini-epic that plays just fine at home. Is the director's branch looking to honor one of their own? He's a journeyman director with commercials and music videos under his belt. It won't make me happy but it could happen.
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Postby Reza » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:17 pm

flipp525 wrote:Too bad Cynthia Nixon can’t slip in for A Quiet Passion.


Maybe if we keep repeating this it will happen :)

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Postby flipp525 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:10 pm

Too bad Cynthia Nixon can’t slip in for A Quiet Passion.
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Postby Big Magilla » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:58 pm

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Sabin wrote:Annette Bening for 'Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool.' Or is it 'Film Stars Never Die in Liverpool' or 'Always Die in Liverpool?' I forget. Anyway, she got a BAFTA, but the more major thing if note is she wasn't up for an award within the past twelve months for '20th Century Women' so that could possibly carry over. (Four previous nominations)

The title, which is supposed to be either ironic or sarcastic, or both, refers to the situation in which two of Gloria Grahame's children had her removed from her deathbed in Liverpool over the objections of Peter Turner (Jamie Bell) and his family and accompanied her to New York where she died at St. Vincent's Hospital a few hours after arriving because "film stars don't die in Liverpool."
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Postby Okri » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:56 pm

... I did forget about the PGA nomination even though you mentioned it. Hmm...

This weekend is stuffed with movies opening I want to see, so maybe I'll check it out.

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Postby Sabin » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Okri wrote
I dunno Sabin - those nominations for Molly's Game seem like small potatoes. The writer's had basically nobody to vote for; Aaron Sorkin feels like a big name debut director and I don't know how much a get ACE really is. I think Streep's shaky for the fifth slot, but we've said that about her before - heck, she even beat Chastain to a 5th slot (2014).

Don't forget it got a PGA nomination. Meryl Streep is probably the favorite, but 'The Post' underperforming while 'Molly's Game' is over-performing.

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I know you hate The Post, but you just described Streep's character as well.

Sure.
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