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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Franz Ferdinand » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:54 pm

Good luck with your surgery Uri!

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby dws1982 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:06 am

Uri wrote:
Precious Doll wrote:Streep would have been fine with a better script and more subtle director. As for Spacek, don't care if she never makes another film again.


dws1982 wrote:I want her to be in at least five movies every year. But I think she's pretty happy with just doing a small role here and there, mostly on TV, and spending the rest of her time on her farm in Virginia, so good for her.


Ah, the perils of old age. Did I mix you two up? Who was the one who awarded Spacek 6 or 7 times on his personal list for best actress?

To be fair, I awarded her five (or was it six?) times. Which puts her in her rightful place, just behind Ingrid Bergman.

Also, best wishes in your upcoming surgery.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby mlrg » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:21 am

flipp525 wrote:I’m starting to feel old too. I’m going to turn 40 in April! I’ve been on this Board with you all almost half my life. :oops: :oops: :oops: :shock:


I'm turning 40 in September so that's also half my life on this board :shock: :lol:

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby flipp525 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:59 am

I’m starting to feel old too. I’m going to turn 40 in April! I’ve been on this Board with you all almost half my life. :oops: :oops: :oops: :shock:
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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Uri » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:53 am

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Uri wrote:Later this month I'm about to have my hip joint replaced. I DO feel ancient recently, I'm afraid.

Good luck!

I know a number of people who've had that done, who after they get over the initial recovery are perfectly fine. Knee joint replacements are the killer, especially if you have to have one redone. Fortunately, I haven't had to have either - yet!


I know it'll be ok, but right now that I have a date, it's all about wanting to have it already done.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Big Magilla » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:17 am

Uri wrote:Later this month I'm about to have my hip joint replaced. I DO feel ancient recently, I'm afraid.

Good luck!

I know a number of people who've had that done, who after they get over the initial recovery are perfectly fine. Knee joint replacements are the killer, especially if you have to have one redone. Fortunately, I haven't had to have either - yet!

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Uri » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:15 am

Precious Doll wrote:
Uri wrote:Later this month I'm about to have my hip joint replaced. I DO feel ancient recently, I'm afraid.


Awful. All the best with that. It's a very common procedure and people recover well. I know a number of people who have had them including one of my grandmothers when she was in her 80's and all came out fine.


Thank you. It's not that I'm not bothered, but my surgeon is very highly regarded one and the procedure is the state of the art - at least in Israel. I'm supposed to have a relatively sort and easy recuperating process. We'll see.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Precious Doll » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:06 am

Uri wrote:Later this month I'm about to have my hip joint replaced. I DO feel ancient recently, I'm afraid.


Awful. All the best with that. It's a very common procedure and people recover well. I know a number of people who have had them including one of my grandmothers when she was in her 80's and all came out fine.
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Postby Uri » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:03 am

Later this month I'm about to have my hip joint replaced. I DO feel ancient recently, I'm afraid.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Precious Doll » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:59 am

Uri wrote:
dws1982 wrote:I want her to be in at least five movies every year. But I think she's pretty happy with just doing a small role here and there, mostly on TV, and spending the rest of her time on her farm in Virginia, so good for her.


Ah, the perils of old age. Did I mix you two up? Who was the one who awarded Spacek 6 or 7 times on his personal list for best actress?


Me. And that's why I don't care if she never does anything again because I am happy to watch Badlands, Carrie, 3 Women, Coal Miner's Daughter, Missing, etc, etc over and over again along with 1000's of other great films.[/quote]

Oof, thanks god, or whatever. I was so sure I got it right and you made me question my memory - at our age it's a touchy issue, you know.[/quote]

Yes it can be. As I said to a work colleague in 2016 shortly before I took one years paid leave of long service leave and formally retired from the workforce on 1 December 2017: 'I hate getting old but the alternative is worse'.
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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Uri » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:49 am

Precious Doll wrote:
Uri wrote:
Precious Doll wrote:Streep would have been fine with a better script and more subtle director. As for Spacek, don't care if she never makes another film again.


dws1982 wrote:I want her to be in at least five movies every year. But I think she's pretty happy with just doing a small role here and there, mostly on TV, and spending the rest of her time on her farm in Virginia, so good for her.


Ah, the perils of old age. Did I mix you two up? Who was the one who awarded Spacek 6 or 7 times on his personal list for best actress?


Me. And that's why I don't care if she never does anything again because I am happy to watch Badlands, Carrie, 3 Women, Coal Miner's Daughter, Missing, etc, etc over and over again along with 1000's of other great films.


Oof, thanks god, or whatever. I was so sure I got it right and you made me question my memory - at our age it's a touchy issue, you know.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Precious Doll » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:42 am

Uri wrote:
Precious Doll wrote:Streep would have been fine with a better script and more subtle director. As for Spacek, don't care if she never makes another film again.


dws1982 wrote:I want her to be in at least five movies every year. But I think she's pretty happy with just doing a small role here and there, mostly on TV, and spending the rest of her time on her farm in Virginia, so good for her.


Ah, the perils of old age. Did I mix you two up? Who was the one who awarded Spacek 6 or 7 times on his personal list for best actress?


Me. And that's why I don't care if she never does anything again because I am happy to watch Badlands, Carrie, 3 Women, Coal Miner's Daughter, Missing, etc, etc over and over again along with 1000's of other great films.
"I have no interest in all of that. I find that all tabloid stupidity" Woody Allen, The Guardian, 2014, in response to his adopted daughter's allegations.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Uri » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:31 am

Precious Doll wrote:Streep would have been fine with a better script and more subtle director. As for Spacek, don't care if she never makes another film again.


dws1982 wrote:I want her to be in at least five movies every year. But I think she's pretty happy with just doing a small role here and there, mostly on TV, and spending the rest of her time on her farm in Virginia, so good for her.


Ah, the perils of old age. Did I mix you two up? Who was the one who awarded Spacek 6 or 7 times on his personal list for best actress?

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Mister Tee » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:29 pm

I thought I was going to end up on the lower end of opinions on this, but some of you are far more vociferous than I.

I think the movie's "fine"; one of the better TV movies of the year, with an almost grossly overqualified cast. It covers a rather tiny subject -- or, better, a tiny segment of a bigger subject. The Times's original action of revealing the Pentagon Papers was the real story-motor; Ben Bradlee's lust for grabbing a part of the action doesn't exactly strike Shakespearean sparks. But the movie hums along agreeably and I didn't find the hokum too intolerable. Hidden Figures, a movie many of you were pretty soft on last winter, struck me as twice as cloying and manipulative.

This isn't to give The Post a completely clean bill of health. The "you go girl" stuff was laid on pretty thick, and often incongruously. Sarah Paulson's big speech seemed beamed in from, at the earliest, the late 90s, and seemed to be trying to forcibly turn this freedom of speech parable into a female empowerment message. (It was also undercut if you know that, shortly thereafter, Bradlee traded in Toni for a younger-model Sally Quinn.) And that scene Precious Doll highlighted, Streep descending from the Supreme Court past the angelic throng of future feminists (with virtual choir accompanying), was indeed ludicrous. Especially if you factor in that virtually no one at the time would have had the faintest clue what Kay Graham looked like. I certainly didn't. (Sorry, though: the contest for Most Ridiculous Scene in Spielberg's oeuvre is still won by Margaret Avery's serenade outside her father's church in The Color Purple.)

Having lived through/followed this story, I was really familiar with the material on display. (How familiar? I saw Carrie Coon's haircut, heard someone say she was in Editorial, and I thought, oh, she's playing Meg Greenfield.) This makes me something of a nit-picker (how could they flash a title card saying 1966 while playing a song that wasn't recorded till 1969?!!), but also made me part of the audience that just enjoyed seeing the whole thing played out, like a favored old song. I also thrilled a bit to the antiquated but classic setting the type/running the presses bit. My over-familiarity did, though, make me impatient with the film's punchline. When I saw Frank Wills appear and find the infamous taped-up door, I laughed out loud. But Spielberg, apparently wanting to make certain even mouth-breathers in the audience got the joke, pushed it multiple steps further -- the sign on the door saying DNC; the shot of the flashlight-carrying burglars lifted from All the President's Men; and Wills' phone call spelling out that it's the Watergate. By that time, the joke had started to curdle for me. I acknowledge that may be only because of my particular circumstance.

I'm serious that the film's cast was over-qualified. Seeing people like Jessie Mueller, Bradley Whitford, Alison Brie and Jesse Plemmons in what were practically bit parts made me ache for the many unemployed actors I know who could have used the credit. Perhaps Spielberg was so determined to shoot so quickly, he wanted to be sure he had all top-line actors.

As for the leads -- I liked Hanks best when he was most Hanks-ian (as with his "No! -- that's why I'm asking you guys!"). He wasn't as memorable in the role as Jason Robards -- and his Boston accent only seemed to show up once every 30 minutes. Streep has by far the fullest role, and she's very accomplished in it: we know she's an utterly poised individual, but her unsteadiness comes off fully genuine. It's not a great performance, but if she gets nominated for it, I won't groan. (Nor will I ache if she misses.)

Three star movie. Wouldn't be the worst film nominated, even in the last few years. But the initial "This is the movie to beat" reactions, in a year so teeming with vital work, were Oscar blogging at its worst.

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Re: The Post reviews

Postby Greg » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:05 pm

Uri wrote:So, Precious – bitter Streep got the part instead of a certain petit Texan who was born to play Graham?


I read this, Googled "petit Texas actress," and thought you were writing about Morgan Fairchild.
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