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Postby Big Magilla » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:26 am

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Re: Best Supporting Actress Shouldabeens

Postby bizarre » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:15 pm

ksrymy wrote:
bizarre wrote:1970: Jane Asher (Deep End)

Man, I watched this just a week or two ago and there's no way I'd file Asher in support. She's in the film nearly as much as John Moulder Brown and, honestly, she's a more dominant force on screen than him.

However, your list is fire. Great selections.


Yeah she's definitely borderline, but I tipped her to support considering she's the 'object' of the film's drama and never its subject - part of the reason why her mysterious performance works so well.

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Postby ksrymy » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:46 pm

bizarre wrote:1970: Jane Asher (Deep End)

Man, I watched this just a week or two ago and there's no way I'd file Asher in support. She's in the film nearly as much as John Moulder Brown and, honestly, she's a more dominant force on screen than him.

However, your list is fire. Great selections.
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Re: Best Supporting Actress Shouldabeens

Postby bizarre » Mon May 01, 2017 3:08 pm

1930: Vera Baranovskaya (Tonka of the Gallows)
1931: Satoko Date (The Lady and the Beard)
1932: Miriam Hopkins (Trouble in Paradise)
1933: Mitsuko Yoshikawa (Apart from You)
1934: Emiko Yagumo (A Story of Floating Weeds)
1935: Chōko Iida (An Inn in Tokyo)
1936: Michiko Kuwano (Mr. Thank You)
1937: Fay Bainter (Make Way for Tomorrow)
1938: Mieko Takamine (The Masseurs and a Woman)
1939: Arletty (Le jour se lève)

1940: Ida Lupino (They Drive by Night)
1941: Isobel Elsom (Ladies in Retirement)
1942: Agnes Moorehead (The Magnificent Ambersons)
1943: Gladys George (The Hard Way)
1944: Anne Revere (National Velvet)
1945: Anna Magnani (Rome, Open City)
1946: Donna Reed (It’s a Wonderful Life)
1947: Kathleen Byron (Black Narcissus)
1948: Claire Trevor (Key Largo)
1949: Linda Darnell (A Letter to Three Wives)

1950: Googie Withers (Night and the City)
1951: Kim Hunter (A Streetcar Named Desire)
1952: Maj-Britt Nilsson (Secrets of Women)
1953: Thelma Ritter (Pickup on South Street)
1954: Jane Wenham (An Inspector Calls)
1955: Lillian Gish (The Night of the Hunter)
1956: Kinuyo Tanaka (Flowing)
1957: Ineko Arima (Tokyo Twilight)
1958: Ingrid Thulin (Brink of Life)
1959: Machiko Kyō (Floating Weeds)

1960: Janet Leigh (Psycho)
1961: Setsuko Hara (The End of Summer)
1962: Patty Duke (The Miracle Worker)
1963: Nancy Marchand (Ladybug Ladybug)
1964: Odete Lara (Men and Women)
1965: Věra Křesadlová (Intimate Lighting)
1966: Vivien Merchant (Alfie)
1967: Giovanna Claudia Mongino (La cotta)
1968: Janice Rule (The Swimmer)
1969: Pamela Franklin (The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie)

1970: Jane Asher (Deep End)
1971: Mariclare Costello (Let’s Scare Jessica to Death)
1972: Anna Vagena (The Engagement of Anna)
1973: Bernadette Lafont (The Mother and the Whore)
1974: Lolita Rodriguez (Weighed But Found Wanting)
1975: Ronee Blakley (Nashville)
1976: Geraldine Chaplin (Cría cuervos…)
1977: Joan Blondell (Opening Night)
1978: Rachel Nicholas James (Nighthawks)
1979: Meryl Streep (Kramer vs. Kramer)

1980: Cecilia Roth (Arrebato)
1981: Anne-Laure Meury (The Aviator’s Wife)
1982: Lesley Ann Warren (Victor/Victoria)
1983: Saori Yuki (The Family Game)
1984: Nastassja Kinski (Paris, Texas)
1985: Chunchuna Villafañe (The Official Story)
1986: Dianne Wiest (Hannah and Her Sisters)
1987: Hilde Nyeggen Martinsen (The Ice Palace)
1988: Johanna ter Steege (The Vanishing)
1989: Geneviève Lemon (Sweetie)

1990: Rebecca Nelson (Trust)
1991: Johanna ter Steege (I Can No Longer Hear the Guitar)
1992: Miranda Richardson (Damage)
1993: Claire Skinner (Naked)
1994: Jeanie Drynan (Muriel’s Wedding)
1995: Mare Winningham (Georgia)
1996: Marianne Jean-Baptiste (Secrets & Lies)
1997: Christina Ricci (The Ice Storm)
1998: Lisa Kudrow (The Opposite of Sex)
1999: Toni Collette (The Sixth Sense)

2000: Emma Samuelsson (Together)
2001: Bae Doona (Take Care of My Cat)
2002: Eileen Walsh (The Magdalene Sisters)
2003: Yum Jung-ah (A Tale of Two Sisters)
2004: Rosamund Pike (The Libertine)
2005: Amy Adams (Junebug)
2006: Rinko Kikuchi (Babel)
2007: Tilda Swinton (Michael Clayton)
2008: Penélope Cruz (Vicky Cristina Barcelona)
2009: Aggeliki Papoulia (Dogtooth)

2010: Lesley Manville (Another Year)
2011: Sareh Bayat (A Separation)
2012: Cody Horn (Magic Mike)
2013: Zhao Tao (A Touch of Sin)
2014: Suzanne Clément (Mommy)
2015: Joan Allen (Room)
2016: Michelle Williams (Manchester by the Sea)

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Re: Best Supporting Actress Shouldabeens

Postby ksrymy » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:26 pm

Subject to change very frequently

1913 Viola Barry, The Mothering Heart
1914 Mabel Normand, Tillie's Punctured Romance
1915 Musidora, Les Vampires
1916 Louise Glaum, Hell's Hinges
1917 June Elvidge, A Girl's Folly
1918 Dorothy Gish, Hearts of the World
1919 Clarine Seymour, True Heart Susie
1920 Nita Naldi, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde
1921 Bebe Daniels, The Affairs of Anatol
1922 Mae Busch, Foolish Wives
1923 Gladys Brockwell, The Hunchback of Notre Dame
1924 ZaSu Pitts, Greed
1925 Mary McAvoy, Lady Windermere's Fan
1926 Phyllis Haver, What Price Glory
1927 Gladys Brockwell, 7th Heaven (2)
1928 Dorothy Cumming, The Wind
1929 Nina Mae McKinney, Hallelujah!
1930 Marie Dressler, Anna Christie
1931 Miriam Hopkins, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde
1932 Ann Dvorak, Scarface
1933 Olga Tschechowa, Liebelei
1934 Louise Dresser, The Scarlet Empress
1935 Mary Boland, Ruggles of Red Gap
1936 Mary Astor, Dodsworth
1937 Dame May Whitty, Night Must Fall
1938 Beulah Bondi, Of Human Hearts
1939 Kay Francis, In Name Only
1940 Judith Anderson, Rebecca
1941 Mary Astor, The Maltese Falcon (2)
1942 Googie Withers, One of Our Aircraft Is Missing
1943 Anna Svierkier, Day of Wrath
1944 Gail Russell, The Uninvited
1945 Anna Magnani; Rome, Open City
1946 Martha Vickers, The Big Sleep
1947 Kathleen Byron, Black Narcissus
1948 Ethel Barrymore, Portrait of Jennie
1949 Kathleen Byron, The Small Back Room (2)
1950 Maria Casarès, Orpheus
1951 Jan Sterling, Ace in the Hole
1952 Jean Hagen, Singin' in the Rain
1953 Thelma Ritter, Pickup on South Street
1954 Kinuyo Tanaka, Sansho the Bailiff
1955 Betsy Blair, Marty
1956 Eileen Heckart, The Bad Seed
1957 Kay Kendall, Les Girls
1958 Padma Devi, The Music Room
1959 Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life
1960 Edith Scob, Eyes Without a Face
1961 Piper Laurie, The Hustler
1962 Angela Lansbury, The Manchurian Candidate
1963 Patricia Neal, Hud
1964 Nelly Benedetti, The Soft Skin
1965 Joan Blondell, The Cincinnati Kid
1966 Sandy Dennis, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
1967 Yôko Tsukasa, Samurai Rebellion
1968 Ruth Gordon, Rosemary’s Baby
1969 Catherine Burns, Last Summer
1970 Béatrice Romand, Claire's Knee
1971 Ellen Burstyn, The Last Picture Show
1972 Madeline Kahn, What's Up, Doc?
1973 Madeline Kahn, Paper Moon (2)
1974 Valerie Perrine, Lenny
1975 Lily Tomlin, Nashville
1976 Beatrice Straight, Network
1977 Vanessa Redgrave, Julia
1978 Geraldine Page, Interiors
1979 Meryl Streep, Kramer vs. Kramer
1980 Angie Dickinson, Dressed to Kill
1981 Maureen Stapleton, Reds
1982 Lesley Ann Warren, Victor/Victoria
1983 Linda Hunt, The Year of Living Dangerously
1984 Peggy Ashcroft, A Passage to India
1985 Mieko Harada, Ran
1986 Maggie Smith, A Room With a View
1987 Anjelica Huston, The Dead
1988 Mercedes Ruehl, Married to the Mob
1989 Laura San Giacomo, sex, lies, and videotape
1990 Annette Bening, The Grifters
1991 Mercedes Ruehl, The Fisher King (2)
1992 Judy Davis, Husbands and Wives
1993 Anna Paquin, The Piano
1994 Dianne Wiest, Bullets Over Broadway
1995 Joan Allen, Nixon
1996 Marianne Jean-Baptiste, Secrets & Lies
1997 Julianne Moore, Boogie Nights
1998 Lisa Kudrow, The Opposite of Sex
1999 Julianne Moore, Magnolia (2)
2000 Ziyi Zhang, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
2001 Kelly Macdonald, Gosford Park
2002 Catherine Zeta-Jones, Chicago
2003 Patricia Clarkson, The Station Agent
2004 Laura Linney, Kinsey
2005 Amy Adams, Junebug
2006 Adriana Barraza, Babel
2007 Tilda Swinton, Michael Clayton
2008 Amy Adams, Doubt (2)
2009 Anna Kendrick, Up in the Air
2010 Hailee Steinfeld, True Grit
2011 Sareh Bayat, A Separation
2012 Ann Dowd, Compliance
2013 June Squibb, Nebraska
2014 Rene Russo, Nightcrawler
2015 Alicia Vikander, Ex Machina
2016 Molly Shannon, Other People
2017 Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird

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Postby Big Magilla » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:30 pm

Original list has been updated below.
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Postby Damien » Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:42 pm

dws1982 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:I think your Judy Davis and Celeste Holm wins were for the wrong films. Also, if you're going by year of release instead of Oscar eligibility, National Velvet was a 1944 release in New York.

Yep, I did put those titles down wrong.

And as for National Velvet and 1944...sorry Margaret O'Brien. I loved her in Meet Me In St. Louis, but Revere is one of the greatest of all screen mothers. As for my new 45 winner...not sure who would be next in line. I haven't really gone deeply enough into 1945 to have a list yet. Maybe Blondell or Garner from A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. Would have to watch it again to know for sure; It's been awhile, and while I thought both were excellent, I don't remember strongly preferring one to the other.

1945's a terrific year -- you have a lot to look forward to.

My top 5 Supporting Actresses:

1. Constance Collier in Kitty
2. Martha Sleeper in The Bells Of St. Mary’s
3. Margaret Rutherford in Blithe Spirit
4. Gladys Cooper in Love Letters and The Valley Of Decision
5. Ann Blyth in Mildred Pierce
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Postby flipp525 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:40 pm

Big Magilla wrote:Also worth considering: Flora Robson in Saratoga Trunk

Flora Robson's essentially in blackface in Saratoga Trunk playing Ingrid Bergman's mixed race Haitian servant, and it's a performance you sort of think you should laugh at; however, she ends up stealing practically the entire movie. A servant who is anything, but servile. A really different, fun performance in a vastly overlooked film.
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Postby Big Magilla » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:44 pm

1945 was a great year for supporting actresses. Blondell and Garner do indeed hold up to multiple viewings as do Beulah Bondi as the cantankerous great-mother in Renoir's The Southerner; Gladys Cooper in two completely different roles in Love Letters and The Valley of Decision; Geraldine Fitzgerald as the hypochondriac sister in Sidomak's Strange Affair of Uncle Harry.

Also worth considering: Fay Bainter in State Fair; Billie Burke in The Cheaters; Agnes Moorehead in Our Vines Have Tender Grapes; Margaret Rutherford in Blithe Spirit; Flora Robson in Saratoga Trunk and Angela Lansbury in The Picture of Dorian Gray.




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Postby dws1982 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:13 pm

Big Magilla wrote:I think your Judy Davis and Celeste Holm wins were for the wrong films. Also, if you're going by year of release instead of Oscar eligibility, National Velvet was a 1944 release in New York.

Yep, I did put those titles down wrong.

And as for National Velvet and 1944...sorry Margaret O'Brien. I loved her in Meet Me In St. Louis, but Revere is one of the greatest of all screen mothers. As for my new 45 winner...not sure who would be next in line. I haven't really gone deeply enough into 1945 to have a list yet. Maybe Blondell or Garner from A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. Would have to watch it again to know for sure; It's been awhile, and while I thought both were excellent, I don't remember strongly preferring one to the other.

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Postby Big Magilla » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:08 am

dws1982 wrote:1992: Judy Davis, Crimes and Misdemeanors
1950: Celeste Holm, Gentleman's Agreement
1945: Anne Revere, National Velvet

Some nice choices - it's great to see the lovely Barbara Britton finally acknowledged by someone.

I think your Judy Davis and Celeste Holm wins were for the wrong films. Also, if you're going by year of release instead of Oscar eligibility, National Velvet was a 1944 release in New York.
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Postby dws1982 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:44 am

2009 so far: Isabella Rossellini, Two Lovers or Maja Ostaszewska, Katyn
2008: Julia Ormond, Kit Kittredge: An American Girl
2007: Deborra-Lee Furness, Jindabyne
2006: Sandra Bullock, Infamous
2005: Romola Garai, Rory O'Shea Was Here
2004: Maia Morgenstern, The Passion of the Christ
2003: Laura Linney, Love Actually
2002: Helen Mirren, Last Orders
2001: Kerry Washington, Our Song
2000: Siobhan Fallon, Dancer in the Dark
1999: Lara Belmont, The War Zone
1998: Joan Allen, Pleasantville
1997: Debbi Morgan, Eve's Bayou
1996: Lorraine Touissaint, Nightjohn
1995: Joan Allen, Nixon
1994: Kristin Scott-Thomas, Four Weddings and A Funeral
1993: Rosie Perez, Fearless
1992: Judy Davis, Crimes and Misdemeanors
1991: Maureen O'Hara, Only the Lonely
1990: Sheryl Lee Ralph, To Sleep With Anger
1989: Thuy Tu Lee, Casualties of War
1988: Diane Venora, Bird
1987: Anjelica Huston, The Dead
1986: JoBeth Williams, Desert Bloom
1985: ?
1984: Tuesday Weld, Once Upon A Time in America
1983: Linda Hunt, The Year of Living Dangerously
1982: Karen Black, Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean
1981: Jessica Harper, Pennies From Heaven
1980: Beverly D'Angelo, Coal Miner's Daughter
1979: Lyudmila Gurchenko, Siberiade
1978: Meryl Streep, The Deer H unter
1977: Irene Papas, Iphigenia
1976: Piper Laurie, Carrie
1975: Marisa Berenson, Barry Lyndon
1974: Bibi Andersson, Scenes From a Marriage
1973: Kate Reid, A Delicate Balance
1972: Ingrid Thulin, Cries and Whispers
1971: Cloris Leachman, The Last Picture Show
1970: Karen Black, Five Easy Pieces
1969: Simone Signoret, Army of Shadows
1968: Estelle Parsons, Rachel, Rachel
1967: Angie Dickinson, Point Blank
1966: Vanessa Redgrave, Blowup
1965: ?
1964: Angie Dickinson, The Killers
1963: Patricia Neal, Hud
1962: Vera Miles, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
1960: Wendy Hiller, Sons and Lovers
1959: Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life
1958: Wendy Hiller, Separate Tables
1957: Bibi Andersson, Wild Strawberries
1956: Anne Baxter, The Ten Commandments
1955: Jo Van Fleet, East of Eden
1954: Mercedes McCambridge, Johnny Guitar
1953: Setsuko Hara, Tokyo Story
1952: Barbara O'Neil, Angel Face
1951: Nina Foch, An American In Paris
1950: Celeste Holm, Gentleman's Agreement
1949: Barbara Britton, I Shot Jesse James
1948: Ethel Barrymoore, Portrait of Jennie
1947: Kathleen Byron, Black Narcissus
1946: Donna Reed, It's A Wonderful Life
1945: Anne Revere, National Velvet
1944: Margaret O'Brien, Meet Me in St. Louis
1943: Jane Darwell, The Ox-Bow Incident
1942: Gladys Cooper, Now Voyages
1941: Sara Allgood, How Green Was My Valley
1940: Jane Darwell, The Grapes of Wrath
1939: Hattie McDaniel, Gone With the Wind
1938: Dame May Whitty, The Lady Vanishes
1937: Dame May Whitty, Night Must Fall
1936: Mary Astor, Dodsworth
1935: Peggy Ashcroft, The 39 Steps

Stats!

Sissy Spacek reigns supreme, with a whopping six wins in Best Actress (01, 86, 81, 80, 76, 73).

Ingrid Bergman (78, 49, 42) and Vivien Leigh (51, 40, 39) both have three wins in Best Actress. Meryl Streep (95, 85, 78) won twice in Lead and once in Support, while Wendy Hiller (60, 58, 38) won twice in Support and once in Lead.

Diane Keaton (82, 78), Liv Ullmann (74, 68), Audrey Hepburn (63, 61), and Judy Garland (54, 44) have two wins in Best Actress. Laura Linney (07, 03), Romola Garai (05, 03), and Helen Mirren (02, 84), won once each in Lead and Support. Joan Allen (98, 95), Karen Black (82, 70), Bibi Andersson (74, 57), Angie Dickinson (67, 64), Jane Darwell (43, 40), and Dame May Whitty (38, 37) all won twice in Support.




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Postby flipp525 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:25 am

--Precious Doll wrote:2000 – Elaine May for Small Time Crooks

She really should've been nominated. What a fantastic (and hilarious) performance. Small Time Crooks is probably my favorite of Allen's admittedly shitty early '00's output.




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Postby Precious Doll » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:47 am

1926 – Louis Brooks for Love’em or Leave’em
1927 – Not awarded
1928 – Marie Dressler for The Patsy
1929 – Hannah Jones for Piccadilly
1930 – Edith Yorke for City Girl
1931 – Joan Blondell for Night Nurse
1932 – Mary Astor for Red Dust
1933 – Margaret Dumont for Duck Soup
1934 – Louis Beavers for Imitation of Life
1935 – Mary Boland for Ruggles of Red Gap
1936 – Hattie McDaniel for Show Boat
1937 – Laura Hope Crews for Camille
1938 – Beulah Bondi for Vivacious Lady
1939 – Hattie McDaniel for Gone with the Wind
1940 – Judith Anderson for Rebecca
1941 – Sara Allgood for How Green Was My Valley
1942 – Mary Astor for The Palm Beach Story
1943 – Anna Svierkier for Day of Wrath
1944 – Angela Lansbury for Gaslight
1945 – Margaret Rutherford for Blithe Spirit
1946 – Ann Savage for Detour
1947 – Ann Harding for It Happened on 5th Avenue
1948 – Aline MacMahon for The Search
1949 – Nora Swinbourne for Quartet
1950 – Josephine Hull for Harvey
1951 – Hope Emerson for Westward the Women
1952 – Ethel Walters for Member of the Wedding
1953 – Geraldine Page for Hondo
1954 – Agnes Moorebead for The Magnificent Obsession
1955 – Lillian Gish for Night of the Hunter
1956 – Dorothy Malone for Written on the Wind
1957 – Bibi Anderson for Wild Strawberries
1958 – Dorothy Malone for The Tarnished Angels
1959 – Lee Remick for Antamony of a Murder
1960 – Janet Leigh for Psycho
1961 – Fay Bainter for The Children’s Hour
1962 – Shelley Winters for Lolita
1963 – Patricia Neal for Hud
1964 – Angie Dickinson for The Killers
1965 – Janice Rule for The Chase
1966 – Sandy Denis for Whose Afraid of Virginia Woolf ?
1967 – Estelle Parsons for Bonnie and Clyde
1968 – Carole Brownie for The Killing of Sister George
1969 – Susannah York for They Shoot Horses Don’t They ?
1970 – Karen Black for Five Easy Pieces
1971 – Cloris Leachman for The Last Picture Show
1972 – Pat Ast for Heat
1973 – Valentina Cortese for Day for Night
1974 – Mink Stole for Female Trouble
1975 – Lily Thomlin for Nashville
1976 – Piper Laurie for Carrie
1977 – Vanessa Redgrave for Julia
1978 – Geraldine Page for Interiors
1979 – Lisa Eichhorn for Yanks
1980 – Nancy Allen for Dressed to Kill
1981 – Judy Davis for Hoodwink
1982 – Patrice Donnelly for Personal Best
1983 – Dianne Weist for Independence Day
1984 – Peggy Ashcroft for A Passage to India
1985 – Lynette Curran for Bliss
1986 – Maggie Smith for A Room with a View
1987 – Vanessa Redgrave for Prick up Your Ears
1988 – Glenda Jackson for Salome’s Last Dance
1989 – Carrie Fisher for When Harry Met Sally
1990 – Whoopi Goldberg for Ghost
1991 – Mercedes Reuhl for The Fisher King
1992 – Susan Sarandon for Light Sleeper
1993 – Katrin Cartlidge for Naked
1994 – Dianne Weist for Bullets Over Broadway
1995 – Marie Winningham for Georgia
1996 – Sissy Spacek for The Grass Harp
1997 – Julianne Moore for Boogie Nights
1998 – Lisa Kudrow for The Oppiste of Sex
1999 – Chloe Sevingy for Boys Don’t Cry
2000 – Elaine May for Small Time Crooks
2001 – Helen Mirren for Last Orders
2002 – Miranda Richardson for Spider
2003 – Hope Davis for American Splendor
2004 – Virginia Madsen for Sideways
2005 – Ellen Barkin for Palindromes
2006 – Jennifer Hudson for Dreamgirls
2007 – Demi Moore for Mr. Brooks
2008 – Ann Savage for My Winnipeg
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Postby flipp525 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:48 am

--Reza wrote:1986 Barbara Hershey, Hannah and Her Sisters

Excellent choice.

I'm also still perplexed as to how Joan Allen could have missed out on a nomination in '98 for Pleasantville. It's one of the best female supporting performances of the late 90's for sure, in addition to being the best of the "long-suffering" wife roles at which she seems to excel.




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