Best Actor Shouldabeens

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby Big Magilla » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:25 am

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby bizarre » Mon May 01, 2017 3:06 pm

1930: Pierre Alcover (La petite Lise)
1931: Tokihiko Okada (The Lady and the Beard)
1932: Herbert Marshall (Trouble in Paradise)
1933: Tatsuo Saitō (Each Night I Dream)
1934: Geymond Vital (Rapt)
1935: Takeshi Sakamoto (An Inn in Tokyo)
1936: William Powell (Libeled Lady)
1937: Jun Yokoyama (Children in the Wind)
1938: Jean Gabin (Port of Shadows)
1939: Jean Gabin (Le jour se lève)

1940: James Stewart (The Shop Around the Corner)
1941: Orson Welles (Citizen Kane)
1942: Humphrey Bogart (Casablanca)
1943: Roger Livesey (The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp)
1944: Eddie Bracken (The Miracle of Morgan’s Creek)
1945: Jean-Louis Barrault (Children of Paradise)
1946: James Stewart (It’s a Wonderful Life)
1947: Trevor Howard (They Made Me a Fugitive)
1948: Van Heflin (Act of Violence)
1949: Robert Ryan (The Set-Up)

1950: Humphrey Bogart (In a Lonely Place)
1951: John Garfield (He Ran All the Way)
1952: Robert Ryan (On Dangerous Ground)
1953: Trevor Howard (The Heart of the Matter)
1954: Gunnar Björnstrand (A Lesson in Love)
1955: James Dean (East of Eden)
1956: Dinos Iliopoulos (O Drakos)
1957: Tony Curtis (Sweet Smell of Success)
1958: James Stewart (Vertigo)
1959: Jean-Pierre Léaud (The 400 Blows)

1960: Anthony Perkins (Psycho)
1961: Sandro Panseri (Il posto)
1962: Chishū Ryū (An Autumn Afternoon)
1963: Nino Manfredi (The Executioner)
1964: Ivan Dixon (Nothing But a Man)
1965: Rentarō Mikuni (Straits of Hunger)
1966: Per Oscarsson (Hunger)
1967: Robert Liensol (Soleil Ô)
1968: Sérgio Hingst (The Bedroom)
1969: Nelson Villagra (Jackal of Nahueltoro)

1970: Jack Nicholson (Five Easy Pieces)
1971: Richard Attenborough (10 Rillington Place)
1972: Claudio Brook (Castle of Purity)
1973: Martin Sheen (Badlands)
1974: Jacques Spiesser (Un homme qui dort)
1975: Rainer Werner Fassbinder (Fox and His Friends)
1976: Robert De Niro (Taxi Driver)
1977: Boris Plotnikov (The Ascent)
1978: Ken Robertson (Nighthawks)
1979: Martin Sheen (Apocalypse Now)

1980: Robert De Niro (Raging Bull)
1981: Bruno Lawrence (Smash Palace)
1982: Toshinori Omi (Exchange Students)
1983: Vincent Spano (Baby It’s You)
1984: Avtandil Makharadze (Repentance)
1985: Aleksei Kravchenko (Come and See)
1986: Rentarō Mikuni (The Human Promise)
1987: Sergey Shakurov (Friend)
1988: Lương Hữu Minh (Travelling Circus)
1989: Pavel Nazarov (Freeze, Die, Come to Life!)

1990: Hossain Sabzian (Close-Up)
1991: Anthony Hopkins (The Silence of the Lambs)
1992: Stephen Rea (The Crying Game)
1993: David Thewlis (Naked)
1994: Zbigniew Zamachowski (Three Colours: White)
1995: Yoshinori Okada (Like Grains of Sand)
1996: Nathan Lane (The Birdcage)
1997: Tony Leung (Happy Together)
1998: Ian McKellen (Gods and Monsters)
1999: Sol Kyung-gu (Peppermint Candy)

2000: Eric Bana (Chopper)
2001: Adrien Michaux (Toutes les nuits)
2002: Leonardo DiCaprio (Catch Me If You Can)
2003: Luis Tosar (Take My Eyes)
2004: Jim Carrey (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind)
2005: Ralph Fiennes (The Constant Gardener)
2006: Kengō Kora (M)
2007: Simon Pegg (Hot Fuzz)
2008: Joaquin Phoenix (Two Lovers)
2009: Lars Eidinger (Everyone Else)

2010: Dan Byrd (Norman)
2011: Thomas Schubert (Breathing)
2012: Logan Lerman (The Perks of Being a Wallflower)
2013: Miles Teller (The Spectacular Now)
2014: Antoine Olivier-Pilon (Mommy)
2015: Jacob Tremblay (Room)
2016: Casey Affleck (Manchester by the Sea)

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby ksrymy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:29 pm

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Big Magilla wrote:It was a flop on its original release and not shown outside of Italy. It has only recently been shown in the U.S. at the 2012 BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) Film Festival. TCM then showed it. It has, as far as I can tell, never been released on home video. IMDb. has only four reviews, albeit all positive.

It's in the Criterion Collection, for the record.


It's not in any of their current Rossellini box sets. Is this coming soon from Criterion?

If you have Hulu Plus, you have access to many, many of the Criterion films.
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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby ITALIANO » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:37 am

Oh yes, The Messiah was also shown in cinemas.

I don't know exactly why Rossellini didn't like General Della Rovere, which is certainly a masterpiece and was, at the time but even today, an extremely popular, successful movie. I guess that he didn't feel that it was a "personal" project, considering the strong personalities involved (star Vittorio De Sica, screenwriter Indro Montanelli...). Yet it's one of his best movies.

The same can't be said about Anima Nera, I'm afraid. Let me know what you think when you see it - it may also be that it needs to de re-discovered (I saw it many years ago and my opinion on it could be different now, too - back then I was certainly quite disappointed).

I've met and talked to several friends of Rossellini's. They agree that he was a man with a great (and very emotional) intelligence, but not necessarily the best judge of his own work. And for example another movie which is far from perfect is the Sandra Milo vehicle Vanina Vanina - but then in this case it's possible that the hands of the producer damaged it.

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby Johnny Guitar » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:15 am

ITALIANO wrote:Yes, it was a flop in Italy when it first came out, and I've never had a chance to see it on tv. (Rossellini's later movies, of course, were made directly for tv and have been shown often on that medium since).

Still, The Machine That Kills Bad People (love the English title!) is at least famous - if little seen. I'd say that the most obscure Rossellini movies (though I have seen them) - and definitely not his best, even if the first is interesting - are Fear, his last movie with Bergman, made in Germany, and Anima Nera, based on a popular (and back then "shocking") play, with two big stars (Vittorio Gassman and Eleonora Rossi Drago), and a complete failure, in every way. Rossellini never made another film for the big screen after this one.


There was The Messiah ... although its distribution was extremely limited and was never totally finished, if I recall.

I do think Anima Nera may be the Rossellini that people talk about the least (it's also one of the few I haven't seen, though I think I did acquire a copy sometime recently). It was funny that it was one of the two films RR essentially disowned, given the the other one was the great Il generale della Rovere ...

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby ITALIANO » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:39 am

Yes, it was a flop in Italy when it first came out, and I've never had a chance to see it on tv. (Rossellini's later movies, of course, were made directly for tv and have been shown often on that medium since).

Still, The Machine That Kills Bad People (love the English title!) is at least famous - if little seen. I'd say that the most obscure Rossellini movies (though I have seen them) - and definitely not his best, even if the first is interesting - are Fear, his last movie with Bergman, made in Germany, and Anima Nera, based on a popular (and back then "shocking") play, with two big stars (Vittorio Gassman and Eleonora Rossi Drago), and a complete failure, in every way. Rossellini never made another film for the big screen after this one.

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby Precious Doll » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:24 am

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Big Magilla wrote:It was a flop on its original release and not shown outside of Italy. It has only recently been shown in the U.S. at the 2012 BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) Film Festival. TCM then showed it. It has, as far as I can tell, never been released on home video. IMDb. has only four reviews, albeit all positive.

It's in the Criterion Collection, for the record.


It's not in any of their current Rossellini box sets. Is this coming soon from Criterion?
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Postby ksrymy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:00 am

Big Magilla wrote:It was a flop on its original release and not shown outside of Italy. It has only recently been shown in the U.S. at the 2012 BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) Film Festival. TCM then showed it. It has, as far as I can tell, never been released on home video. IMDb. has only four reviews, albeit all positive.

It's in the Criterion Collection, for the record.
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Postby Big Magilla » Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:55 am

It was a flop on its original release and not shown outside of Italy. It has only recently been shown in the U.S. at the 2012 BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) Film Festival. TCM then showed it. It has, as far as I can tell, never been released on home video. IMDb. has only four reviews, albeit all positive.
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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby Johnny Guitar » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:44 pm

Is that really the rarest Rossellini? I've seen it too.

I'm still waiting for opportunities to see (subtitled) copies of La lotta dell'uomo per la sua sopravvivenza or Acts of the Apostles ...

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby ITALIANO » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:41 am

I don't have contempt for you - or anyone else :D ... I just envy you now, because you have seen the rarest Rossellini movie - one which even I have never seen...

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby ksrymy » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:40 pm

ITALIANO wrote:
Reza wrote:
ITALIANO wrote:I was shocked, too. But I guess this board is mostly for lovers of American cinema (and in some ways of America itself).

I've never done these lists. But if I did, I guess that maybe only almost 1/4 of MY winners would be from English-language movies (which is alot, considering that it's only TWO countries).


Marco now I'm very curious to see all the foreign actors on your list.

Ditto Uri.



Ah but some wouldn't be foreign - Italian actors would be on the list, too. :wink:

I'm not patient enough, I'm afraid - these things just aren't for me. But I guess that any serious Best Actor list should include, in no particular order, Marcello Mastroianni, Max Von Sydow, Toshiro Mifune, Toto', Jean Gabin, Gerard Philipe, Jean Louis Trintignant, Fernando Rey, Gian Maria Volonte', Jean Louis Trintignant, Giancarlo Giannini, Ugo Tognazzi, Philippe Noiret, Javier Bardem, Innokenty Smoktunovsky, Michel Serrault, Erland Josephson, Klaus Maria Brandauer, so many others.

If it'll heal any contempt you have towards me, I think Gennaro Pisano should have won in 1952 for Rossellini's The Machine That Kills Bad People.
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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby ITALIANO » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:08 pm

Reza wrote:
ITALIANO wrote:I was shocked, too. But I guess this board is mostly for lovers of American cinema (and in some ways of America itself).

I've never done these lists. But if I did, I guess that maybe only almost 1/4 of MY winners would be from English-language movies (which is alot, considering that it's only TWO countries).


Marco now I'm very curious to see all the foreign actors on your list.

Ditto Uri.



Ah but some wouldn't be foreign - Italian actors would be on the list, too. :wink:

I'm not patient enough, I'm afraid - these things just aren't for me. But I guess that any serious Best Actor list should include, in no particular order, Marcello Mastroianni, Max Von Sydow, Toshiro Mifune, Toto', Jean Gabin, Gerard Philipe, Jean Louis Trintignant, Fernando Rey, Gian Maria Volonte', Jean Louis Trintignant, Giancarlo Giannini, Ugo Tognazzi, Philippe Noiret, Javier Bardem, Innokenty Smoktunovsky, Michel Serrault, Erland Josephson, Klaus Maria Brandauer, so many others.

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby Reza » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:19 pm

ITALIANO wrote:I was shocked, too. But I guess this board is mostly for lovers of American cinema (and in some ways of America itself).

I've never done these lists. But if I did, I guess that maybe only almost 1/4 of MY winners would be from English-language movies (which is alot, considering that it's only TWO countries).


Marco now I'm very curious to see all the foreign actors on your list.

Ditto Uri.

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Re: Best Actor Shouldabeens

Postby Cinemanolis » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:12 am

Uri wrote:
Cinemanolis wrote:1961 Marcelo Mastroianni – La Dolce Vita
1990 Gerard Depardieu – Cyrano De Bergerac


Really? Are these the only non English speaking performances in 80 years to be considered the best of their given year?


Actually with Ulrich Muhe it's 3, but that doesn't make it any better. I can certainly see you and italianos point. I checked my Actress Shouldhavebeens list where things for "foreign" language performances are a little bit better (8) and then i checked my Best Director Shouldabeens where things are lot better with 24 out of 68 winners are directors of "foreign" language films. I suppose what make the difference for me (even without realizing it) is that i connect better with a performance in a language i understand. I can appreciate every pause and intonation that i can't appreciate in other language, even when they are in french or german which to a much lesser extend (i used) to understand. A big role to the presence of so many english language performances and films in everyone's lists is the fact that these films are much more accessible and easier to track down and see than "foreign" films. Of course in this area things are 300% better than they used to be in 1995, but still for me some english language films and performances that i watched in my teens that impressed and influenced me are not easy to surpass not always because of their superior quality but also for sentimental reasons.


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