The Bourne Ultimatum: The Poll

The Bourne Ultimatum

****
0
No votes
*** 1/2
4
21%
***
6
32%
** 1/2
5
26%
**
1
5%
* 1/2
2
11%
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0
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No votes
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1
5%
 
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Postby Penelope » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:27 am

Okri wrote:Whereas dubbing him Greencrap is the height of film criticism. :;):

But of course. :cool:
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Postby criddic3 » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:40 am

Is this really the "third and final" film of the franchise?

Aren't there more books than that? Couldn't they make more movies? Did Matt Damon say that he wasn't going to do any more?
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Postby Okri » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:52 pm

Whereas dubbing him Greencrap is the height of film criticism. :;):

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Postby Penelope » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:29 pm

This is how pretentious and ignorant Greencrap is about filmmaking; a recent article in the Hollywood Reporter begins:

When director Paul Greengrass and the filmmaking team made Universal Pictures' "The Bourne Ultimatum," which opens Friday, there was a deliberate effort to create a departure from other movies of the action genre by avoiding cliches.

The result was rapid cuts and a general sense of uneasiness in a high-octane thrill ride for the third and final film in the "Bourne" franchise.

...um, hasn't the entire history of action films been defined by rapid cutting and a "general sense of uneasiness"?

When I come across articles like that, I just shake my head in disbelief that critics are buying into Greencrap's shallow filmmaking.
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Postby Penelope » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:43 pm

You can join in my assessment Pen, because here's what he says of Greengrass's work: "This is, simply put, some of the most accomplished filmmaking being done anywhere for any purpose."

Jesus Christ Superstar! That has to be the most inanely assinine and ignorant comment about film I've ever read.
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Postby Damien » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:38 pm

Penelope wrote:No offense, Okri, but there are far too many other directors I admire whose films I want to see before I waste precious time on a filmmaker I loathe to the very core of my being. Hell, I'd rather watch the entire resume of Michael Bay or Brett Ratner before I watch another Greencrap film.

On some other thread I mentioned that Nathan Lee (now with the Village Voice) is probably the prime idiot among film reviewers today (and more objectionable than the usual dopes like Jeffrey Lyons and the quote whores because he fancies himself a cineaste).

You can join in my assessment Pen, because here's what he says of Greengrass's work: "This is, simply put, some of the most accomplished filmmaking being done anywhere for any purpose."
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Postby Penelope » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:33 pm

Ooops, my bad.
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Postby Big Magilla » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:26 pm

That's not Ed's review.

Not having seen the film, I don't know how "on the money" Paul's review is, but it is pretty much what I would expect and why I'm in no hurry to see it.
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Postby Penelope » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:58 am

Click here.
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Postby dws1982 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:55 am

Where did Ed Gonzalez review it?

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Postby Penelope » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:02 am

Ed Gonzales' review is on the money.
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Postby Penelope » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:54 am

No offense, Okri, but there are far too many other directors I admire whose films I want to see before I waste precious time on a filmmaker I loathe to the very core of my being. Hell, I'd rather watch the entire resume of Michael Bay or Brett Ratner before I watch another Greencrap film.
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Postby Okri » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:20 pm

Have you seen Bloody Sunday yet? If not, please do. I think it's easily his finest film.

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Postby Penelope » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:59 pm

Sonic Youth wrote:
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Sonic Youth wrote:unrelenting nervous camera movement and machine-gun cutting prove wearying more often than not

Greencrap is a thoroughly unoriginal hack. Fucking hate his films.

Quote taken out of context.

I know, and that was the point; they said the same thing about the last Bourne film and United 93 and it still annoyed the hell outta me. I mean, what's the point if you can't actually see or appreciate the film; it's a style and approach that has only a dead end in the future: if he (or his misguided devotees) follow it to its logical end, all we'll be seeing is a dazzle of images with no context, no character, no meaning.
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Postby Sonic Youth » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:37 pm

Penelope wrote:
Sonic Youth wrote:unrelenting nervous camera movement and machine-gun cutting prove wearying more often than not

Greencrap is a thoroughly unoriginal hack. Fucking hate his films.

Quote taken out of context.
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