Everything Is Great and Amazing

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Mister Tee » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:37 pm

It's going to be an experiment, down there in Florida. Party regulars had wanted Gwen Graham, because of her lineage (father was long-time Governor/Senator), perceived greater electability (a good many disillusioned moderate Republicans seemed ready to vote for her), and Gillum's proximity to a Tallahassee corruption investigation (whether it's a legitimate investigation or involves him directly is open to question). Gillum was more openly liberal, but he's not a fringe candidate -- he was a Hillary delegate two years ago, a career Democrat. By most accounts he's an impressive speaker.

Initial reaction from many I follow was uh-oh, a race blown...but, upon fuller reflection: 1) the GOP nominee DeSantis is a full-on MAGA asshole, the far weaker GOP option (had Adam Putnam won the Republican nomination, he'd be solidly favored) -- a notion instantly underlined this morning by his "monkey" quote; 2) David Jolly, former GOP rep and Never-Trumper, surprised me last night by saying GOPers in the state he knows think Gillum's win will drive much higher African-American turnout throughout the state -- so, even if he falls short in his race, he could help elect Dems in state and local elections, as well as boost Bill Nelson in his race against Rick Scott; and 3) it's undeniable that midde-of-the-road Dems have been failing short in recent Florida state elections -- Nelson is their only winner in the past decade or two -- so why not see how this more risky approach works out? The seeming blue wave -- aided in Florida by the Parkland students -- could be enough to pull Gillum through.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:56 am

Congratulations, Greg, and good luck in the general election. This will be an interesting one to watch.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Greg » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:06 pm

Our Revolution, the group I am in that is an outgrowth of the Sanders Presidential campaign, just had a big victory. Andrew Gillum, a candidate we endorsed, has just won the Democratic nomination for Florida Governor!

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:26 pm

John McCain has discontinued treatment for his brain cancer. He's an incredibly complicated political figure but he deserves praise for his moments of integrity. There is nothing you can say to a family as they prepare to say goodbye to a loved one...

But not in this case. My hope is that somehow McCain lives to see Trump gone. I know. The chances are so, so small. I still have money on Trump serving out his term. However some people I truly respect have made a terrific case for how we are looking at the end of the Trump Presidency. This has been a disastrous week for Trump, especially with the revelation that his bookmaker has flipped. It's such a long shot. But man, I hope it comes true.

NOTE: Nope. Rest in peace.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:58 am

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:54 am

Definitely a star on the rise and, yes, he does very much evoke Bobby Kennedy.

He's been on the right side of every issue including universal one-payer healthcare but not necessarily as an extension of Medicare as we know it.

I'll be very disappointed (again!) if he doesn't defeat Cruz.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:53 am

In rare, positive news, I've been following Beto O'Rourke for over a year now. Initially, I thought he was a promising politician with some good instincts but came off as a little too coached and studied. Since his Bill Maher appearance, he's gotten much better and it seems like he is really catching on. I've always thought he had a strong shot at defeating Ted Cruz for a host of reasons. Chief among them, the Republican party respects the appearance of strength and Ted Cruz has displayed stunning weaknesses on the national stage (phone banking for Trump and begging him for help after he called his wife ugly and accused his father of assassinating JFK) and clearly a Senator more for his own political ambitions than for Texans. And now Beto is a handful of points behind, raising million of dollars in small donations, and is already being called a current leader for the Democratic party for a viral speech that has people comparing him to Bobby Kennedy. Even if he doesn't win this seat, it's hard to imagine anybody else getting the DNC Keynote speech in 2020. And yes, I am aware that there is another politician out there with more than a passing resemblance to Bobby Kennedy.

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics ... nal-anthem
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Mister Tee » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:01 pm

Eights are wild -- Manafort convicted on 8 counts; Cohen pleads guilty to 8 counts.

The latter might be even more significant, because Cohen implicates Trump directly in conspiring with him to break campaign finance law.

Whee!

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Mister Tee » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:44 pm

Kudos to you, Bog, for putting your time and effort where many of our mouths are. I'm sure you were heartbroken at the (apparent) outcome -- I was following it on various sites/twitter accounts, and the way it dribbled to a so-close-but-so-far end crushed me. But you're right to take the long view: if this district, backed by huge RNC expenditures, can only be fought to a draw, all those districts closer in party ID will be ripe for the taking in November. And I think your take is interesting here (one I haven't seen from any of the so-knowledgeable pundits): the conventional view is that incumbency will benefit Balderson three months down the line, but, really, it might mostly serve to take him off the campaign trail during this now-short general election period. (And you're right: that "fuck Franklin County" gaffe may get much wider circulation now than it did in the preceding 48 hours.)

Apart from just falling short in OH-12, the Dems had a pretty great night. MO soundly defeated a union-busting bill, and threw out the DA who failed to prosecute the cop in Ferguson. WA state, with their jungle primaries, show several Dems poised to knock off incumbent GOPers. (WA, CA & PA on their own might provide half the needed House pickups.) And solid, interesting female candidates continue to win nominations -- for governorships in both MI and KS (the latter an actual pickup opportunity, because the odious Kris Kobach seems to have barely eked out the GOP nod.)

Oh, and one last OH-12 note: though it's not quite matching the margin of Dem defeat, the Green Party candidate once again made it much easier for the Republican to win. I have a suggestion for Green Party voters next election day: stay home and masturbate. You'll have an equal electoral effect, and maybe enjoy it a bit more.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Bog » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:05 am

Sabin wrote:Thanks for all your hard work, Bog.


Easiest job I've ever done...was excited to continue the process no matter the results! He would have been the youngest member of Congress had he won last night. Almost definitely Alexandria would have swiped it from him come November and will precede him if they both win at general.

There is something so virginal and uncorrupted about his nature that is hard not to absolutely refresh one in this money grubbing Washington climate of unbendable partisanship purely just to be partisan.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:25 am

Well, it's not over until the absentee ballots are counted but it probably is a lost race at least until November. Why they would even bother to have a special election this close to the real one is a bit of a headscratcher.

The projected blue wave is probably still coming but the size of it may not be as great as it should be.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:32 pm

Thanks for all your hard work, Bog.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Bog » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:56 pm

Tough fucking loss here tonight...and I'm right at the front of the line to deride moral victories...however:

1) Very odd special election schedule with one of the nation's most ridiculously gerrymandered districts...but one that delves into the city, however slightly. OSU and it's 50,000 enrollment is still on summer break...not the case in 90 days. The video from last night showing Balderson announce no one wants someone from Franklin county (Columbus proper) representing them will be more important as an ad over next 90 days.

2) Trump immediately took credit for the victory (obviously via Twitter)...despite objectively being the reason this district dropped from a Tiberi 2016 victory by a margin of 67%-30%

3) If it is true there are 60+ some odd cases across the country where the Pub is in bigger trouble than Ohio 12 BEFORE this race turned out less than a point margin...how will they justify not punting at the RNC level...with Balderson already running into funding issues a couple weeks ago.

4) What in the HELL did they do with Kasich's children and when will they be returned to him...in order to coerce him to film a pro-Balderson ad Sunday night ??? Hard to fathom he continues vocal and televised support for a very pro Trump candidate if he wants to actually oppose him in a primary in 2 years...and Damn straight he pushed Balderson over the edge...probably pisses Trump off even more!

5) In a race inside a point...and not all the way "declared" yet...easy to argue boots on the ground sure does top shipping off to DC for a useless couple months. O'Connor will be back at it on Thursday and should have more money and further support as Trump derails more by the day.

I worked hard here for O'Connor and am pretty inconsolable for the moment...but after blowing off some steam and writing this out I am more cautiously optimistic!

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Mister Tee » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:41 pm

Big Magilla wrote:He didn't confess anything. He admitted the Trump Tower meeting was to get dirt on his opponent, but still claims he didn't know about it beforehand as if he would've stopped it. In essence, he just threw his son under the bus.

Gee, a lot of people think that bolded portion is a pretty big confession, seeing they've been saying otherwise for over a year now.

There's way too much fatalism on the left side of the equation. I remember liberal friends being confident Nixon would survive, as well. Trump isn't immune to laws of political gravity. Mueller is coming, and he's going to take him down. There might be a fair degree of ugliness to the process, but the majority of the country isn't ready to surrender to lawlessness.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:44 pm

He didn't confess anything. He admitted the Trump Tower meeting was to get dirt on his opponent, but still claims he didn't know about it beforehand as if he would've stopped it. In essence, he just threw his son under the bus.

It doesn't matter, though, because if by some chance Don Jr. is convicted of anything Daddy will pardon him along with all his other co-conspirators and then if he himself is brought to justice his successor will pardon him "for the good of the country."
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