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Postby OscarGuy » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:26 am

Don't forget the hush payment paid to Eliza Dushku over the harassment she received from Michael Weatherly on the set of Bull.
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Postby Precious Doll » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:52 am

Make that five.

I forgot the Harvey/JLaw rumblings.
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Postby Precious Doll » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:40 am

There are four 'sex' scandals in the news at the moment being reported in the news in my part of the world:

Geoffrey Rush;

Woody Allen/Mia Farrow (yet again for the up tenth time in nearly 30 years);

Hugo Weaving's niece quitting some U.S. TV show;

A local federal politician who'd I'd never heard of who is part of the right wing and a morals campaigner who got caught out using taxpayer's money to take trips to Hong Kong to meet up with some 'sugar baby' he meet online.

I lead such a boring life.......and I'm glad I do.
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Postby ITALIANO » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:58 am

HarryGoldfarb wrote:
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Precious Doll wrote:This is getting more messy by the day: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/entert ... 4zz75.html


Yeah... Not the most edifying story ever. Let me just say that in Italy going to bed with a 17-year-old wouldn't be a crime at all. But of course it's different in California.


But should it be? Is the age of consent the real problem? Where shall we draw a line? Should a line be drawn? I think the answer is yes, but I'd like to know your view on this.


Yes. A line should be drawn, and it certainly depends on several factors, including cultural ones. Where, it's maybe subjective, and my idea - which more or less matches the Italian law - would probably lead to more attacks from the puritans here. But well, let me say at least that the idea that a 17-year-old can't have sex is... how shall I put it... absurd? I mean, who DIDN'T have sex at 17?

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Postby Precious Doll » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:16 am

HarryGoldfarb wrote:I don't know... the movement surely has a good, valid and important intention, a noble reason that jusitifies its own existence. But this is so contradictory. Per her own words, the whole thing could have been encouraged (consensual) but now it is "the right time" (fashionable?) to talk about it (even though she specifically stated to her "friend" that she wouldn't do it).


Lots of contradictions go on in some many things in everyday life. Problem I think is that people (because it happens to men, not just women) feel that can't speak up and they need to 'please'. Sometimes it can be very hard to say something to a 'friend' because people can turn and if they have power you don't know how they are going to exercise it. Lots of people maintain toxic friendships and relationships for all sorts of reasons.

I'm attaching a link to the entire interview. On the webpage there is also a transcript of the interview:

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/actor-yael- ... t/10629070
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Postby HarryGoldfarb » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:47 pm

Precious Doll wrote:Geoffrey Rush's career is over. There is no way he can recover from these further allegations:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-17/ ... h/10625916


"I saw him as a friend and a really respected colleague, and we'd become close over the years," she said. / "He's an incredibly fun, charming man." / She is sympathetic towards Mr Rush and says she can understand why he might feel confused by her public statement now, given her apparent compliance in 2010. / "Certain behaviour has been allowed, if not encouraged along the way and suddenly, a lot of people have stood up and said, 'No, actually. No'," Ms Stone said. / In the email, Ms Stone said she did not intend to ever speak publicly about the matter.

I don't know... the movement surely has a good, valid and important intention, a noble reason that jusitifies its own existence. But this is so contradictory. Per her own words, the whole thing could have been encouraged (consensual) but now it is "the right time" (fashionable?) to talk about it (even though she specifically stated to her "friend" that she wouldn't do it).
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Postby HarryGoldfarb » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:35 pm

ITALIANO wrote:
Precious Doll wrote:This is getting more messy by the day: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/entert ... 4zz75.html


Yeah... Not the most edifying story ever. Let me just say that in Italy going to bed with a 17-year-old wouldn't be a crime at all. But of course it's different in California.


But should it be? Is the age of consent the real problem? Where shall we draw a line? Should a line be drawn? I think the answer is yes, but I'd like to know your view on this.
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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:20 am

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Precious Doll wrote:Geoffrey Rush's career is over. There is no way he can recover from these further allegations:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-17/ ... h/10625916


It just goes to show that some men can never get out of the syndrome as depicted in the film Porky's.


Indeed.

Just finishing watching the interview - even worse behaviour by Rush exposed in the interview. :oops:

I should point out that this reporting has been done by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation). It is a completely taxpayer (Government) funded organisation that carries out its reporting in an apolitical manner and can be relied upon to check fact everything before it airs. They are not some commercial network looking for easy ratings.

Over the years the ABC have reported on all sorts of matters in the public interest including the inappropriate behaviour of political parties (including Governments in power), Government agencies (such as the ATO - the US version of the IRS) and industries such as those involved in banking, fiancee, superannuation, aged care, etc which have led to Royal Commissions.

A couple of years ago they presented a show on allegations against George Pell, and Australian Cardinal who until recently held one of the highest positions in the Vatican. As a result of their investigations George Pell was last week found guilty of two cases of sexually abusing minors. He faces sentencing and is due to stand another trial in the new year in relation to other allegations. Pell is the highest ranking person of the Catholic Church to ever be convicted of these sorts of crimes. This is thanks in a large part to the ABC and their investigative journalism.

I'll post a link to the interview with by the 7.30 report once its online which I would expect to be within the next 24 hours.
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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Reza » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:53 am

Precious Doll wrote:Geoffrey Rush's career is over. There is no way he can recover from these further allegations:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-17/ ... h/10625916


It just goes to show that some men can never get out of the syndrome as depicted in the film Porky's.

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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:27 am

Geoffrey Rush's career is over. There is no way he can recover from these further allegations:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-17/ ... h/10625916
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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby ITALIANO » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:14 am

Reza wrote:
ITALIANO wrote:I know that some here won't agree - they CAN'T - but like it or not ideas can also be judge (by many) based on those who most passionately represent them - and undertandably so. A movement is defined not only by the principles it adheres to, but also by the people who lead it. And there's always something wrong with fanatics - be they in the MeToo movement, on this board, or anywhere else. The ultimate result? A loss of credibility not just for the movement itself - which I never believed in, of course, but many even here did - but for the ideas it promoted, some of which are absolutely right.

And no, before some idiot starts again, I am not pro-sexual harassment, etc.


Italiano you can say what you want. Haters gonna hate even if you provide "disclaimers" like you just did in your closing paragraph :D . It's all about vision. A lot of it is limited unfortunately and prone to hysterical accusations which this "movement" is also starting to bear witness to. The "movement" IS important of course, especially in theory, but getting into the nitty gritty of it is like shit hitting the fan. Only in a bad way where it is now being used as a tool to get satisfaction.


I'm sure that even in MeToo there are many sincere - and sincerely committed - people. And even its leaders are probably honest - their main problem (like in other, completely different movements) is fanaticism, which is never the best, most effective way to face a problem - even a real problem like the one MeToo deals with.

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Postby Reza » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:37 am

ITALIANO wrote:I know that some here won't agree - they CAN'T - but like it or not ideas can also be judge (by many) based on those who most passionately represent them - and undertandably so. A movement is defined not only by the principles it adheres to, but also by the people who lead it. And there's always something wrong with fanatics - be they in the MeToo movement, on this board, or anywhere else. The ultimate result? A loss of credibility not just for the movement itself - which I never believed in, of course, but many even here did - but for the ideas it promoted, some of which are absolutely right.

And no, before some idiot starts again, I am not pro-sexual harassment, etc.


Italiano you can say what you want. Haters gonna hate even if you provide "disclaimers" like you just did in your closing paragraph :D . It's all about vision. A lot of it is limited unfortunately and prone to hysterical accusations which this "movement" is also starting to bear witness to. The "movement" IS important of course, especially in theory, but getting into the nitty gritty of it is like shit hitting the fan. Only in a bad way where it is now being used as a tool to get satisfaction.

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Postby ITALIANO » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:22 am

I know that some here won't agree - they CAN'T - but like it or not ideas can also be judge (by many) based on those who most passionately represent them - and undertandably so. A movement is defined not only by the principles it adheres to, but also by the people who lead it. And there's always something wrong with fanatics - be they in the MeToo movement, on this board, or anywhere else. The ultimate result? A loss of credibility not just for the movement itself - which I never believed in, of course, but many even here did - but for the ideas it promoted, some of which are absolutely right.

And no, before some idiot starts again, I am not pro-sexual harassment, etc.

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Postby Precious Doll » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:11 pm

ITALIANO wrote:
I hope you all realize how ridiculous all this is getting.


Yep. Asia is proceeding with her lawsuit against Rose McGowan. I don't think she has a hope in hell of winning:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/asi ... ccounter=1
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Postby ITALIANO » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:54 pm

In the meantime Asia Argento has been fired from the Italian version of X-Factor, which is ironic not only because nothing has been proved yet, but most importantly because in this country (Italy) what she may have done with this Jimmy Bennett would be perfectly legal. I would never do it, but like it or not, in Italy and in several other European countries it would be legal. But of course this calvinistic approach has become fashionable, and Italy is sadly copying the US.

Anf next Sunday, a very popular talk show will have as a special guest - directly from America - Jimmy Bennett in person, paid (obviously) very, very well for his trip here.

I hope you all realize how ridiculous all this is getting.


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