Web of Sex Scandals

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Postby Reza » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:58 am

Precious Doll wrote:Latest spin-off from the MeToo It'sTime movements:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/f ... m-festival

Really everyone, regardless of sex, should just wear whatever they want.


"Under the Twitter hashtag #NobodysDoll, German actor Anna Brüggemann has said she wishes to challenge the “patriarchal gaze” women habitually face at film festivals and award ceremonies"

How about wearing a burqa and REALLY make a statement? Not only hide their cleavage (which so many proudly display via plunging necklines courtesy of their favourite designer and which has been a freedom of expression for decades) but cover the entire body AND hide their faces under a veil to counteract that pesky "patriarchal gaze". Hope she knows that "gaze" ain't going nowhere :)

This is now getting just plain silly and stupid.

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Precious Doll » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:28 am

Latest spin-off from the MeToo It'sTime movements:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/f ... m-festival

Really everyone, regardless of sex, should just wear whatever they want.
"I have no interest in all of that. I find that all tabloid stupidity" Woody Allen, The Guardian, 2014, in response to his adopted daughter's allegations.

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Postby Big Magilla » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:00 pm

Jill Messick's family blames the 50-year-old producer's suicide on depression brought on by Rose McGowan unfairly implicating her in her charges against Harvey Weinstein.

http://deadline.com/2018/02/jill-messic ... 202282388/

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby flipp525 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:51 pm

Scarlett Johansson’s speech at last year’s Women’s March was one of the most moving of the day. I remember almost her entire speech now a year later.

I don’t think she’s necessarily deserving of ire. She seems like a really strong, outspoken, and articulate person.
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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Big Magilla » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:58 am

Precious Doll wrote:Scarlett Johansson speaks out:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/hollywood ... Yn4aM.html

Clearly Dylan Farrow doesn't count:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... sible.html

Typical Hollywood: only when it suits their agenda.

I don't agree. It seems to me she's assessing each situation on its own merits as she sees it.

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Postby Precious Doll » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:43 am

Scarlett Johansson speaks out:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/hollywood ... Yn4aM.html

Clearly Dylan Farrow doesn't count:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... sible.html

Typical Hollywood: only when it suits their agenda.
"I have no interest in all of that. I find that all tabloid stupidity" Woody Allen, The Guardian, 2014, in response to his adopted daughter's allegations.

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Postby ITALIANO » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:11 pm

flipp525 wrote:
dws1982 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:He was exonerated in court long ago on charges brought by Mia Farrow who many believe put the notion of her then 7-year-old daughter Dylan's being molested by him in her head.

The prosecutor declined to prosecute because he felt he couldn't get a conviction (which is often the case for sexual assault cases, especially those involving children), but that's not exoneration.

This point needs to be highlighted again.


Ok, but I don't understand... Why couldn't he get a conviction? Were there proofs or not? Honestly, the crime Woody Allen was accused of was so serious that, with the needed proofs, he would have certainly been sent to jail (and rightly so).

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby flipp525 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:43 pm

dws1982 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:He was exonerated in court long ago on charges brought by Mia Farrow who many believe put the notion of her then 7-year-old daughter Dylan's being molested by him in her head.

The prosecutor declined to prosecute because he felt he couldn't get a conviction (which is often the case for sexual assault cases, especially those involving children), but that's not exoneration.

This point needs to be highlighted again.
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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby ITALIANO » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:48 pm

Precious Doll wrote:I continued to watch his films because I will not boycott anybody's films over events in their personal lives or because of their political views either. Once you start doing that sort of thing, where do you stop?


Exactly.

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Big Magilla » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:47 am

Precious Doll wrote:Allen's affair with his long time girlfriends adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Previn has torn the Farrow family apart and I cannot muster up any sympathy for Woody Allen. "The heart wants what the heart wants" he stated back in 1992. He also has a brain but clearly no moral compass.


True, but then all these suddenly conscience-stricken actors and actresses in his films since knew that when they signed on to make them.

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Big Magilla » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:43 am

dws1982 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:He was exonerated in court long ago on charges brought by Mia Farrow who many believe put the notion of her then 7-year-old daughter Dylan's being molested by him in her head.

The prosecutor declined to prosecute because he felt he couldn't get a conviction (which is often the case for sexual assault cases, especially those involving children), but that's not exoneration.

OK.

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Postby dws1982 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:55 am

Big Magilla wrote:He was exonerated in court long ago on charges brought by Mia Farrow who many believe put the notion of her then 7-year-old daughter Dylan's being molested by him in her head.

The prosecutor declined to prosecute because he felt he couldn't get a conviction (which is often the case for sexual assault cases, especially those involving children), but that's not exoneration.

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Precious Doll » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:36 am

I was a big Woody Allen fan but those allegations back in 1992 certainly made me take a step back. Whilst we will never now if he did or did not molest his adopted daughter, there has been so much conflicting evidence in the press and on the internet over the years that it is virtually impossible to decipher what may be the truth.

But Allen's affair with his long time girlfriends adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Previn has torn the Farrow family apart and I cannot muster up any sympathy for Woody Allen. "The heart wants want the heart wants" he stated back in 1992. He also has a brain but clearly no moral compass.

I continued to watch his films because I will not boycott anybody's films over events in their personal lives or because of their political views either. Once you start doing that sort of thing, where do you stop?

I feel Allen's films from Sleeper to Bullets Over Broadway, inclusive, as one of the most impressive run of films of virtually any director in the history of cinema. I could watch some of them every week forever and don't think I would get bored. But I'd be lying if I didn't say I haven't gained some pleasure by the decline in his work over the last 20 years. He sometimes gives us some pleasures like Small Time Crooks, You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger, Blue Jasmine, Midnight in Paris & Cafe Society but most of his work has been mediocre at best and embarrassing at worst. I also feel not having a muse to write for (i.e. Diane Keaton & Mia Farrow) and stilted him as a writer. Farrow in particular stretched Allen as a writer/director for which he bestowed on filmgoers some of the most inventive films of his career.
"I have no interest in all of that. I find that all tabloid stupidity" Woody Allen, The Guardian, 2014, in response to his adopted daughter's allegations.

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Big Magilla » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:48 am

God knows I have never been Woody Allen's biggest fan. I have been uneasy about his depiction of young girls since Mariel Hemingway in Manhattan, but I find this current shaming of him abhorrent.

He was exonerated in court long ago on charges brought by Mia Farrow who many believe put the notion of her then 7-year-old daughter Dylan's being molested by him in her head. Her adopted son, Moses, 14 at the time, has publicly come out against her. Dylan's younger brother, Woody's only biological son, Ronan, 4 or 5 at the time, whose investigation exposed Harvey Weinstein, supports her. For decades now, actors have steered clear of taking sides in the dispute. Now, because of the #MeToo movement, it's become fashionable to believe the accuser, even when nothing in the accused's background shows similar behavior. Allen is suddenly toxic for no rational reason.

My first thought when I heard that Timothée Chalamet had given up his salary on Allen's latest film, in which he stars, was is the young actor suddenly so wealthy that he can afford to mimic Mark Wahlberg? With no other films in the offing, Chalamet really isn't in position to throw money around. His career could fizzle as quickly as it took flight this past year. As the worm turns, he could find himself holding the short end of the stick with public opinion swinging back in the other direction.

With more misses than hits since the Farrow breakup, it's probably time for the 82-year-old Allen to give it a rest, but he shouldn't be forced to do so for something that has been out there for more than a quarter of a century with no further clarity now than it had then.

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Re: Web of Sex Scandals

Postby Precious Doll » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:19 am

With developments in recent weeks in relation to the on-going allegations against Woody Allen, I suspect it's very unlikely we will see any new films from Woody Allen. It seems like only yesterday (late 1992) since these first came to light.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/j ... llegations
"I have no interest in all of that. I find that all tabloid stupidity" Woody Allen, The Guardian, 2014, in response to his adopted daughter's allegations.


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