Austin Film Critics Awards - and Best of Decade

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Postby MovieWes » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:35 am

I think you're giving them too much credit. I've talked to some of these film students, and nearly all of them have recommended The Boondock Saints to me. :p
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Postby rain Bard » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:10 pm

If they're film students, they should be able to identify with the skill and creativity involved in making a successful low-budget film, and reward at least one or two of those along with the big studio fare.

They wouldn't have to be something supposedly "arty" or "pretentious"- could be a horror-comedy like Baghead or a documentary like Hell House, to name two independent films I know went over well in Austin.

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Postby MovieWes » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:49 pm

You have to consider the people voting for the Austin Film Critics Awards, though. It's largely made up of film students from the University of Texas (who are all members of the Austin Film Society) and bloggers like Harry Knowles.



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Postby rolotomasi99 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:16 pm

The Original BJ wrote:I have to agree with rain bard. I like all of the films on that best of decade list, and to be honest, a lot of them I love.

Wow, I am so glad someone else said it. I actually am more impressed with this decade list than others I have seen.

That being said, this is not exactly the list I would have made myself.


My list would be (in no particular order):
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Requiem For A Dream (2000)
The Pianist (2002)
Letters From Iwo Jima (2006)
Wall-E (2008)
Brokeback Mountain (2005)
Talk To Her (2002)
In The Mood For Love (2000)
Memento (2000)
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Postby The Original BJ » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:34 pm

I have to agree with rain bard. I like all of the films on that best of decade list, and to be honest, a lot of them I love.

But together, they read like such a fan-boyish list -- as rain bard says, it's a very limited view of the past decade's cinema. (Not that my list would necessarily be full of off-the-beaten-path titles, but, sheesh, this list is about as un-singular as they get.)

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Postby rain Bard » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:57 pm

Zahveed wrote:I don't find the Best of the Decade list as offensive as the rest of you. Then again, I seem to like anything.

I can't speak for anyone else on this but here's my take. No one film they cite is something I personally would consider a bad film. I was entertained and/or impressed by most of them when they first came out, though some have held up better in memory or under the scrutiny of repeat viewings than others.

But the list represents such a completely limited view of what cinema is or can be. Critics are supposed to lead their readers to films, and ways of seeing films, that they would not have encountered before. If all they do is rubber-stamp their readers' tastes then what's the point?

It's as if the Austin list was meant to represent the best of the 64 films from this decade found on the imdb Top 250, or of the (coincidentally, also 64) films from this decade with at least 115,000 imdb votes. Though even those two lists, as narrow a swath of cinema as they may comprise, exhibit more diversity than this top ten. There are foreign-language films on both, for example. And films with more "independent" credentials. And films with more stylistic and tonal diversity than displayed here. It's just a depressingly blindered vision of cinema, and/or of the critic's role in the larger discussion of it.

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Postby rolotomasi99 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:41 pm

MovieWes wrote:
rolotomasi99 wrote:
Damien wrote:I swear, I'm going to set off a bomb somewhere if that mediocrity known as The Hurt Locker wins another award. What is it with these sheep?

:(

Is that supposed to be ironic? You are going to set off a bomb because a very well made movie about the very real story of soldiers risking their lives de-activating bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan is winning more awards than you see fit.

Wow. I thought I took this whole thing seriously, but you making terrorism jokes seems a bit much.

Why is it that you're always the person to take offense to people's jokes? That seems to be your thing.

Areas off limits for humor for me:
Murder
Torture
Rape

Also, any humor encouraging bigotry. I enjoy humor which makes fun of how ridiculous bigotry is, but not any humor which seems to be excusing or celebrating it.

I am shocked that these standards seem to be considered extreme around here.

If, for example, Damien did not like how BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN was winning every critic's award, that would totally be his opinion to express. I would just hope he would not use anti-gay jokes to make his point.

The same thing with his feelings about THE HURT LOCKER.




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Postby Zahveed » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:50 pm

At least he's not planting a bomb...
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Postby MovieWes » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:39 pm

rolotomasi99 wrote:
Damien wrote:I swear, I'm going to set off a bomb somewhere if that mediocrity known as The Hurt Locker wins another award. What is it with these sheep?

:(

Is that supposed to be ironic? You are going to set off a bomb because a very well made movie about the very real story of soldiers risking their lives de-activating bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan is winning more awards than you see fit.

Wow. I thought I took this whole thing seriously, but you making terrorism jokes seems a bit much.

Why is it that you're always the person to take offense to people's jokes? That seems to be your thing.
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Postby rolotomasi99 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:48 pm

Damien wrote:I swear, I'm going to set off a bomb somewhere if that mediocrity known as The Hurt Locker wins another award. What is it with these sheep?

:(

Is that supposed to be ironic? You are going to set off a bomb because a very well made movie about the very real story of soldiers risking their lives de-activating bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan is winning more awards than you see fit.

Wow. I thought I took this whole thing seriously, but you making terrorism jokes seems a bit much.
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Postby MovieWes » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:54 am

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rain Bard wrote:That Best of the Decade list makes me wonder if the Austin Film Critics membership must be vetted by Harry Knowles before being allowed to vote. Or maybe he's the only critic in the group?

Does Harry have all that power or is there something in the water in Austin?

As someone who has been a part of the whole Austin film scene, I can tell you that, yes, Harry Knowles is king in Austin. I've been to several film events in Austin, and I have yet to attend anything film related in which he hasn't been in attendance.

However, I think that probably the biggest film presence in Austin are all the RTF students attending the University of Texas, and I would bet money that they make up the majority of voters.
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Postby Zahveed » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:42 am

flipp525 wrote:
Damien wrote:I swear, I'm going to set off a bomb somewhere if that mediocrity known as The Hurt Locker wins another award. What is it with these sheep?

This group's Best of the Decade is truly evil.

True.

But, let's be honest, this choice was inspired: Best Actress: Melanie Laurent, Inglourious Basterds

I hope it carries on to other awards. Not only is she deserving, but I get the added bonus of making a good call.
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Postby flipp525 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:32 am

Damien wrote:I swear, I'm going to set off a bomb somewhere if that mediocrity known as The Hurt Locker wins another award. What is it with these sheep?

This group's Best of the Decade is truly evil.

True.

But, let's be honest, this choice was inspired: Best Actress: Melanie Laurent, Inglourious Basterds
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Postby Big Magilla » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:17 am

rain Bard wrote:That Best of the Decade list makes me wonder if the Austin Film Critics membership must be vetted by Harry Knowles before being allowed to vote. Or maybe he's the only critic in the group?

Does Harry have all that power or is there something in the water in Austin?
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Postby Zahveed » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:06 am

Big Magilla wrote:Best Actress: Melanie Laurent, Inglourious Basterds

Best Supporting Actor: Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds

Best Original Screenplay: Inglourious Basterds, Quentin Tarantino

Score.

I don't find the Best of the Decade list as offensive as the rest of you. Then again, I seem to like anything.
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