Everything Is Great and Amazing

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:20 pm

That's one check in the left column for Kirsten Gillibrand. One in the right column is her support for Andrew Cuomo today, which is getting substantially more news.

I wasn't excited at all at the prospect of a Kirsten Gillibrand presidential candidacy but she's been a very interesting politician. She's carved out several progressive positions designed to win over voters like me, but she doesn't give the impression of being pushed like Hillary Clinton. She's backed Medicare for All, renounced corporate contributions, and now government jobs. The only downside is I do wonder how much she will stick to these positions if elected. She is also the politician the most at the forefront of the #MeToo movement, which I suspect will be a double-edged sword politically. Trump's insinuating tweet about how she would do "anything" for money frames her in a particularly gratifying lens to defeat him, but her encouraging of Al Franken to resign before an investigation made me uncomfortable. And I largely support the movement.

The only prediction I'll make about the 2020 primary is that it's going to be very crowded, but I like that Kirsten Gillibrand is running like she means it.
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Postby Greg » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:38 pm

Here is a potentially-very-interesting development for the 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination:

"For decades, the idea of government-guaranteed jobs for all Americans has stalked the outer edges of political debate. It has been promoted by labor unions and has ideological support among some progressive thinkers, but in recent years hasn’t been seen as a mainstream policy issue for the Democratic party. Now, that may be changing.

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand told The Nation she supports a government-backed jobs guarantee. 'Guaranteed jobs programs, creating floors for wages and benefits, and expanding the right to collectively bargain are exactly the type of roles that government must take to shift power back to workers and our communities,' she said. 'Corporate interests have controlled the agenda in Washington for decades so we can’t tinker at the margins and expect to rebuild the middle class and stamp out inequality. We need to get back to an economy that rewards workers, not just shareholder value and CEO pay.' "

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-d ... guarantee/
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:33 pm

If there was ever a moment in my life when I wish the Me from ten years ago could see what I'm doing now, it would be ten seconds ago when I googled: "Donald Trump Space Force."
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Postby Greg » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:25 pm

Trump just fired Secretary Of State Tillerson. Apparently, Tillerson found out about this from one of Trump's Tweets. Considering that Trump has treated his own staff with more contempt and disrespect than any President in modern history, I can only imagine the tell-all books that will be coming out, non-disclosure agreements, if any, be damned. If I had Tillerson's money and was treated like this, even if I had signed and NDA, I would still spill my guts and just dare Trump to sue me.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:22 am

All the coverage of this jackass is obscuring a truly horrible bit of news that has gotten scant attention in the last few days.

Russia allegedly vetoed Trump's selection of Romney for Secretary of State, delighted that he made a last minute switch to Russia's favorite oil guy, Tillerson. Both Trump and Tillerson have failed to impose the sanctions demanded by Congress. That's high treason if it can be proven and all that is needed to prove Trump was a witting tool of a foreign country.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Okri » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:44 pm

Not gonna lie, couldn't even finish the Tur interview without wanting to reach through my monitor and <insert random violent act here>. She should be canonized for that.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby flipp525 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:43 pm

Okri wrote:I'd like to congratulate Katy Tur on that. Holy fucking shit.

Did you see his insane interview on Ari Melber’s “The Beat” at 6pm? It was incredible.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Okri » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:40 pm

I'd like to congratulate Katy Tur on that. Holy fucking shit.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:51 pm

This past week, one of the survivors of the school shootings suggested on Twitter that, "We should change the names of AR-15s to “Marco Rubio” because they are so easy to buy."

Marco Rubio got his ass handed to him from both sides of the aisle this week. Because the knock on Rubio is that he was assembled in a lab, there was something cathartic about watching that room go after him. But on a broader scale, it is just nuts to me that a guy like Marco Rubio doesn't have a party anymore. People on the right don't trust him because he's willing to compromise. And nothing short of a complete disavowal of NRA money would have been satisfactory in that town hall. But more so, I think people on the left don't trust him because he's a Latino in a party of racists.

I don't know what inspired him to get out there but it didn't work at all. It was a terrible mistake that likely made him wish for the simpler days of being called "Little Marco" by the guy that he now has to go out there and defend.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Sabin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:27 pm

criddic3 wrote
I don't think we can blame the NRA or the GOP directly for the kinds of events we've seen in recent times. They simply want to uphold a Constitutional principle, though I agree they should be a bit more flexible about things like requiring IDs and background checks to purchase guns.

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby criddic3 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:21 pm

Big Magilla wrote:
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Big Magilla wrote:I hadn't thought about the NRA being brought up on RICO charges, but that would be icing on the cake. The end of the NRA and the GOP as we know them at the same time. One couldn't hope for a better outcome.


Be careful what you wish for. Too much power on one side of the ideological scale is not necessarily a good thing.

Note I didn't say the end of the NRA and GOP altogether - I said as we know them.


Ah but what incarnation will they morph into? Back to the "saner" version of the mid-80s, to the ineffectual GOP of the 1940s, or perhaps the early abolitionists of the 1850s? Or some newfangled party that acts more like a slightly more right-leaning Libertarian Party? There are many possibilities but few are realistic. I don't think we can blame the NRA or the GOP directly for the kinds of events we've seen in recent times. They simply want to uphold a Constitutional principle, though I agree they should be a bit more flexible about things like requiring IDs and background checks to purchase guns. They should all make a deal with Democrats, and say "We'll give you stricter gun laws in exchange for voter ID laws, as long as the IDs are free and accessible." :D
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby The Original BJ » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:30 am

criddic3 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:I hadn't thought about the NRA being brought up on RICO charges, but that would be icing on the cake. The end of the NRA and the GOP as we know them at the same time. One couldn't hope for a better outcome.


Be careful what you wish for. Too much power on one side of the ideological scale is not necessarily a good thing.


What kind of balance should we strike between the folks who want to squash open racism and fascism, end the senseless scourge of gun violence, provide healthcare to all, and encourage fair and democratic elections...and the people who don’t want any of those things?

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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby Big Magilla » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:28 am

criddic3 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:I hadn't thought about the NRA being brought up on RICO charges, but that would be icing on the cake. The end of the NRA and the GOP as we know them at the same time. One couldn't hope for a better outcome.


Be careful what you wish for. Too much power on one side of the ideological scale is not necessarily a good thing.

Note I didn't say the end of the NRA and GOP altogether - I said as we know them.
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Re: Everything Is Great and Amazing

Postby criddic3 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:18 pm

Big Magilla wrote:I hadn't thought about the NRA being brought up on RICO charges, but that would be icing on the cake. The end of the NRA and the GOP as we know them at the same time. One couldn't hope for a better outcome.


Be careful what you wish for. Too much power on one side of the ideological scale is not necessarily a good thing.
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Postby Big Magilla » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:13 pm

I hadn't thought about the NRA being brought up on RICO charges, but that would be icing on the cake. The end of the NRA and the GOP as we know them at the same time. One couldn't hope for a better outcome.
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