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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Reza » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:55 pm

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Big Magilla wrote:Some of these may be Academy members or among those who turned down or simply ignored invitations from the days before invitations were made public.


Lucky if it would be 10% - I did a check of some of the more known well actors from the link Anonymous provided and didn't include anyone that has actually been nominated.


If the actors you mention in your list below were all given membership by the Academy the winner's circle would start looking a lot like the Cesar awards - your list is predominantly french.

In any case why should all these foreign actors be made members? Diversity? Like most new thoughts in Hollywood today this too would fall into that absurd category of taking a meaningful idea and pushing it to ridiculous lengths.

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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:48 am

Big Magilla wrote:Some of these may be Academy members or among those who turned down or simply ignored invitations from the days before invitations were made public.


Lucky if it would be 10% - I did a check of some of the more known well actors from the link Anonymous provided and didn't include anyone that has actually been nominated.
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Big Magilla » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:49 am

Some of these may be Academy members or among those who turned down or simply ignored invitations from the days before invitations were made public.
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I've been compiling a list a male actors that would make appropriate members IMO and funnily enough could not come up with as many names as I could for females. This might partially have to do with that there are more films made outside of the US with better roles for women and that women do tend to get better roles in general, even if there are less of them, because women are aloud to display a wider range of emotions than men generally are.

Anyway, thought I would share the list, along with a few more actresses that came to mind. The same methodology that I applied to the female list applied to the males.

Brigitte Bardot
Romane Bohringer
Elodie Bouchez
Beatrice Dalle
Maria de Medeiros
Julie Depardieu
Anne Dorval
Marina Hands
Maria Heiskanen
Valerie Lemercier
Johanna ter Steege

Hiroshi Abe
Sung-Ki Ahn
Marcelo Alonso
Mathieu Amairic
Jean-Hughes Anglade
Pierre Arditi
Niels Arestrup
Lior Ashkenazi
Daniel Auteuil
Jean-Pierre Bacri
Harry Baer
Xavier Beauvois
Jean-Paul Belmondo
Haluk Bilginer
Nahuel Perez Biscayart
Michel Blanc
Moritz Bleibtreu
Lothaire Bluteau
Richard Bohringer
Danny Boon
Sami Bouajila
Bryan Brown
Guillaume Canet
Eric Caravaca
Vincent Cassel
Alfredo Castro
Javier Camara
Nicolas Cazale
Francois Cluzet
Gregoire Colin
Ricardo Darin
Jean-Pierre Darroussin
Pierre Deladonchamps
Alain Delon
Jean-Claude Dreyfus
Albert Dupontel
Romain Duris
Andre Dussollier
Pascal Elbe
Lily Franky
Sami Frey
Christian Friedel
Bruno Ganz
Jose Garcia
Louis Garrel
Elio Germano
Remy Girard
Hippolyte Girardot
Olivier Gourmet
Marc-Andre Grondin
David Gulpilil
Rutger Hauer
Chris Haywood
Shahab Hosseini
Jung-min Hwang
Janne Hyytiainen
John Jarratt
Tcheky Karyo
Mathieu Kassovitz
Yuzo Kayama
Kyan Khojandi
Sebastian Koch
Jeroen Krabbe
Thomas Kretschmann
Laurent Lafitte
Andy Lau
Jean-Pierre Leaud
Byung-Hun Lee
Gregoire Leprince-Ringuet
Ewen Leslie
Jalil Lespert
Tony Chiu-Wai Leung
Vincent Lindon
Michael Lonsdale
Sergi Lopez
Laurent Lucas
Fabrice Luchini
Payman Maadi
Benoit Magimel
Jean-Pierre Marielle
Gerard Meylan
Mads Mikkelsen
Richard Moir
Daniel Olbrychski
Barry Otto
Makis Papadimitriou
Guy Pearce
Vincent Perez
Michel Piccoli
Dominque Pinon
Michel Placido
Benoit Poelvoorde
Melvil Poupaud
Jerzy Radziwilowicz
Tahar Rahim
Jeremie Renier
Pierre Richard
Riccardo Scamarcio
Toni Servillo
Kang-ho Song
Volker Spengler
Kim Rossi Stuart
Omar Sy
Jack Thompson
Bruno Todeschini
Jean-Louis Trintignant
Gaspard Ulliel
Hugo Weaving
Lambert Wilson
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Precious Doll » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:34 am

Reza wrote:I wonder if the Goya or Cesar award committes also induct voting members from Hollywood's elite circle?


Mind you the French Cannes Film Festival can be just as mistaken. There is a long standing rumour, which makes a lot of sense, that Douglas Sirk was the choice for head of the 1980 Cannes Film Festival Jury and that someone got confused and invited Kirk Douglas. Its pretty believable as Kirk Douglas does not fit the bill to head a prominent film festival jury, whereas Douglas Sirk did.
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Reza » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:10 am

I wonder if the Goya or Cesar award committes also induct voting members from Hollywood's elite circle?

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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Reza » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:07 am

Big Magilla wrote:Maybe they simply didn't know who they were inviting. As far as I know, it still takes two recommendations and a panel vote before the invitation goes out. Maybe two impassioned Academy members suggested her and the actors panel, some of whom vaguely recalled the name, looked at the two credits, saw The Diving Bell and the Butterfly and thought, a-ha, yes, let's invite her.


Scarily that very well may be true which could be an indication of most of the moronic Academy members out there who wield a vote.

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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Big Magilla » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:59 am

Maybe they simply didn't know who they were inviting. As far as I know, it still takes two recommendations and a panel vote before the invitation goes out. Maybe two impassioned Academy members suggested her and the actors panel, some of whom vaguely recalled the name, looked at the two credits, saw The Diving Bell and the Butterfly and thought, a-ha, yes, let's invite her.
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Precious Doll » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:36 am

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Precious Doll wrote:Emmanuelle Seigner declines Academy invitation:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... in-1125566


"But how can I ignore the fact that a few weeks ago the Academy expelled my husband, Roman Polanski, in an attempt to appease the zeitgeist — the very same Academy which in 2002 awarded him an Oscar for The Pianist! A curious case of amnesia!"

She certainly has a point with what she says above. Good for her that she declined.


The Academy are nuts for inviting her based on the Roman Polanski expulsion alone. They were asking for bad publicity and they got it.

Of course if Polanski was married to say an actress of the calibre of Nathalie Baye the question would be 'why has this taken so long?'. In the case of Seigner it appeared to be purely a gesture of good will that has blown up in the Academy's face.

Maybe someone mixed things up and they thought they were inviting Mathilde Seigner?
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Reza » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:42 pm

Precious Doll wrote:Emmanuelle Seigner declines Academy invitation:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... in-1125566


"But how can I ignore the fact that a few weeks ago the Academy expelled my husband, Roman Polanski, in an attempt to appease the zeitgeist — the very same Academy which in 2002 awarded him an Oscar for The Pianist! A curious case of amnesia!"

She certainly has a point with what she says above. Good for her that she declined.

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Re: New Academy Members

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Emmanuelle Seigner declines Academy invitation:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... in-1125566
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Precious Doll » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:38 am

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I'm happy to see Shabana Azmi (from India) on your list. She is by far a better and more diverse actor (in Bollywood and in International Cinema) than the current crop of Bollywood stars who have been invited. This new lot are good (strictly homegrown commercially) but nowhere near Ms Azmi in terms of experience or the kind of films and important roles she has attempted. And she is still active in cinema unlike some of the geriatrics who have been invited but will either not accept or vote.


Shabana Azmi always impresses me and she has guts too. How many actresses anywhere would play the lead role in Fire. Some of the very old won't accept because they probably don't even have TVs much less DVD players. I remember when the Academy invited Emmanuelle Riva I had a little chuckle to myself because I was aware that she didn't own a TV. Hell, I have a TV but its primary use to DVD/Blu Ray. I very really watch anything broadcast on it, don't subscribe to pay TV and don't stream. It's pretty much strictly a monitor for my DVDs.
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Precious Doll » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:32 am

A few more actresses that come to mind:

Harriet Andersson
Julia Blake
Rachael Blake
Claudia Cardinale
Lynette Curran
Essie Davis
Arielle Dombasle
Lola Duenas
Brigitte Fossey
Deborah Francois
Ewa Froling
Martina Gedeck
Fiona Gordon
Noni Hazlehurst
Sacha Horler
Nina Hoss
Agnes Jaoui
Min-hee Kim
Anne-Louise Lambert
Mi-sook Lee
Chiara Mastroianni
Birgit Minichmayr
Miou-Miou
Judy Morris
Ornella Muti
Miranda Otto
Irene Papas
Gloria Pires
Blanca Portillo
Angela Punch McGregor
Sumiko Sakamoto
Emma Suarez
Kuei-Mei Yang
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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Reza » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:58 am

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Reza wrote:Looking at some of these choices I feel the Academy is trying too hard to justify the diversity angle.

It's nice to see them invite two of the iconic Bengali stars who made waves in the films of Satyajit Ray. But I seriously doubt both Soumitra Chatterjee (now 83) and Madhabi Mukherjee (now 76) will accept. Seems too late in the day to send these two invites. This is just the Academy going waaay out of their way to fill in the blanks in order to shut off the brouhaha over the diversity issue. Quite foolish of them really.


I still think they are doing the right thing but agree its way to late. Hell, as the very least Madhabi Mukherjee should have been a nominee back in the 1960s.

I said below that I could compile a list of 100 French actresses more deserving than Polanski's wife and given time and assistance with someone more knowledgeable of French cinema than myself I still think I can but I came up with a list of more than 100 international actresses, most of which would never have been invited, and that I feel are more deserving than 80% of the actors that the Academy has invited. Also, they would make the Academy more diverse than say Blake Lively would.

I thought I would share the list. I do acknowledge that some of them are probably already members - I checked a couple of likely ones on the list anonymous provided a link to but I really don't wish to check every single person. I have also did not include any 'international' actress who has been nominated by the Academy in the past as they are likely to have already been invited. I did not include any American or British actresses but I did include Australian actresses and one New Zealand actress (Kerry Fox). Jane Birkin is the exception as most of her acting career has been in France. All of these actresses have at least 2 credits that are of note, which is more than I can say for some of those invited by the Academy.

The Deborah Lee-Furness inclusion is not a joke by the way. She is an accomplished actress in her own right. The evidence is on the screen (refer to Shame, Jindabyne & Blessed).

I know there are major omissions with the list and welcome additions but feel that this list illustrates the Academy still has along way to go:

Victoria Abril
Bibi Andersson
Anemone
Fanny Ardant
Ariane Ascaride
Pernilla August
Sabine Azema
Shabana Azmi
Josiane Balasko
Sareh Bayat
Jane Birkin
Nathalie Baye
Emmanuelle Beart
Florinda Bolkan
Sandrine Bonnaire
Carole Bouquet
Isabelle Carre
Margit Carstensen
Maggie Cheung
Anne Consigny
Nandita Das
Cecile de France
Emilie Dequenne
Maruschka Detmers
Emmanuelle Devos
Trine Dyrholm
Kerry Fox
Catherine Frot
Deborra-Lee Furness
Nicole Garcia
Pauline Garcia
Anna Geislerova
Luminita Gheorghiu
Adele Haenel
Leila Hatami
Irm Hermann
Maria Hofstatter
Sandra Huller
Irene Jacob
Krystyna Janda
Julia Jentsch
Do-yeon Jeon
Megumi Kagyrazaka
Anna Karina
Marthe Keller
Kirin Kiki
Sandrine Kilberlain
Kyoko Koizumi
Agata Kulesza
Sidse Babett Knudsen
Carole Laure
Melanie Laurent
Francoise Lebrun
Virginie Ledoyen
Gong Li
Susanna Lothar
Noemie Lvovsky
Judith Magre
Deborah Mailman
Maiwenn
Anamaria Marinca
Eva Mattes
Giovanna Mezzogiorno
Radha Mitchell
Nobuko Miyamoto
So-Ri Moon
Laura Morante
Yolande Moreau
Frances O’Connor
Bulle Ogier
Kati Outinen
Marisa Paredes
Leah Purcell
Marie Riviere
Alba Rohrwacher
Beatrice Romand
Cecilia Roth
Brigitte Rouan
Ludivine Sagnier
Dominique Sanda
Hanna Schygulla
Edith Scob
Mathilde Seigner
Barbara Sukowa
Grazyna Szapolowska
Magda Szubanski
Audrey Tautou
Valeria Bruni Tedeschi
Sylvie Testud
Melanie Thierry
Ana Torrent
Lea van Acken
Monique van de Ven
Karin Viard
Jutta Wachowiak
Kerry Walker
Franziska Weisz
Angela Winkler
You
Yuh Jung Youn
Jeong-hie Yun
Antonia Zegers
Tao Zhao


I'm happy to see Shabana Azmi (from India) on your list. She is by far a better and more diverse actor (in Bollywood and in International Cinema) than the current crop of Bollywood stars who have been invited. This new lot are good (strictly homegrown commercially) but nowhere near Ms Azmi in terms of experience or the kind of films and important roles she has attempted. And she is still active in cinema unlike some of the geriatrics who have been invited but will either not accept or vote.

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Re: New Academy Members

Postby Precious Doll » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:03 am

Reza wrote:Looking at some of these choices I feel the Academy is trying too hard to justify the diversity angle.

It's nice to see them invite two of the iconic Bengali stars who made waves in the films of Satyajit Ray. But I seriously doubt both Soumitra Chatterjee (now 83) and Madhabi Mukherjee (now 76) will accept. Seems too late in the day to send these two invites. This is just the Academy going waaay out of their way to fill in the blanks in order to shut off the brouhaha over the diversity issue. Quite foolish of them really.


I still think they are doing the right thing but agree its way to late. Hell, as the very least Madhabi Mukherjee should have been a nominee back in the 1960s.

I said below that I could compile a list of 100 French actresses more deserving than Polanski's wife and given time and assistance with someone more knowledgeable of French cinema than myself I still think I can but I came up with a list of more than 100 international actresses, most of which would never have been invited, and that I feel are more deserving than 80% of the actors that the Academy has invited. Also, they would make the Academy more diverse than say Blake Lively would.

I thought I would share the list. I do acknowledge that some of them are probably already members - I checked a couple of likely ones on the list anonymous provided a link to but I really don't wish to check every single person. I have also did not include any 'international' actress who has been nominated by the Academy in the past as they are likely to have already been invited. I did not include any American or British actresses but I did include Australian actresses and one New Zealand actress (Kerry Fox). Jane Birkin is the exception as most of her acting career has been in France. All of these actresses have at least 2 credits that are of note, which is more than I can say for some of those invited by the Academy.

The Deborah Lee-Furness inclusion is not a joke by the way. She is an accomplished actress in her own right. The evidence is on the screen (refer to Shame, Jindabyne & Blessed).

I know there are major omissions with the list and welcome additions but feel that this list illustrates the Academy still has along way to go:

Victoria Abril
Bibi Andersson
Anemone
Fanny Ardant
Ariane Ascaride
Pernilla August
Sabine Azema
Shabana Azmi
Josiane Balasko
Sareh Bayat
Jane Birkin
Nathalie Baye
Emmanuelle Beart
Florinda Bolkan
Sandrine Bonnaire
Carole Bouquet
Isabelle Carre
Margit Carstensen
Maggie Cheung
Anne Consigny
Nandita Das
Cecile de France
Emilie Dequenne
Maruschka Detmers
Emmanuelle Devos
Trine Dyrholm
Kerry Fox
Catherine Frot
Deborra-Lee Furness
Nicole Garcia
Pauline Garcia
Anna Geislerova
Luminita Gheorghiu
Adele Haenel
Leila Hatami
Irm Hermann
Maria Hofstatter
Sandra Huller
Irene Jacob
Krystyna Janda
Julia Jentsch
Do-yeon Jeon
Megumi Kagyrazaka
Anna Karina
Marthe Keller
Kirin Kiki
Sandrine Kilberlain
Kyoko Koizumi
Agata Kulesza
Sidse Babett Knudsen
Carole Laure
Melanie Laurent
Francoise Lebrun
Virginie Ledoyen
Gong Li
Susanna Lothar
Noemie Lvovsky
Judith Magre
Deborah Mailman
Maiwenn
Anamaria Marinca
Eva Mattes
Giovanna Mezzogiorno
Radha Mitchell
Nobuko Miyamoto
So-Ri Moon
Laura Morante
Yolande Moreau
Frances O’Connor
Bulle Ogier
Kati Outinen
Marisa Paredes
Leah Purcell
Marie Riviere
Alba Rohrwacher
Beatrice Romand
Cecilia Roth
Brigitte Rouan
Ludivine Sagnier
Dominique Sanda
Hanna Schygulla
Edith Scob
Mathilde Seigner
Barbara Sukowa
Grazyna Szapolowska
Magda Szubanski
Audrey Tautou
Valeria Bruni Tedeschi
Sylvie Testud
Melanie Thierry
Ana Torrent
Lea van Acken
Monique van de Ven
Karin Viard
Jutta Wachowiak
Kerry Walker
Franziska Weisz
Angela Winkler
You
Yuh Jung Youn
Jeong-hie Yun
Antonia Zegers
Tao Zhao
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